94 Accord EX Head Gasket Replacement Question

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Gary Kaucher, Aug 22, 2006.

  1. Gary Kaucher

    Gary Kaucher Guest

    94 Honda Accord EX - 300K miles

    I replaced the head gasket, after "lapping to plate" both the head and deck.
    I took precautions to remove as much of the abrasive residue as possible,
    and after 110 miles I changed the oil and filter. The timing belt was
    installed in the "same tooth" as before, and the distributor cap is also in
    the same exact position. Basically, the car is set up the same as before,
    except now there seems to be more compression. The car runs "tighter".

    1) Should I adjust anything to reduce any "negative effects" resulting from
    this newfound compression? Are the 300K old valves taking a beating now?

    2) Since I sanded down the head and the deck, the "volume of compression"
    has changed. Is this noteworthy. If so, what adjustmensts might compensate
    for this?

    I am monitoring the gas mileage and keeping my eye on the oil level.

    I think that years ago I used to rotate the distributer cap, to somehow
    reduce head pressure.

    Thanks for all the help.


    Gary
     
    Gary Kaucher, Aug 22, 2006
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  2. Gary Kaucher

    jim beam Guest

    two things:

    1. less coolant in the combustion chambers! water doesn't burn.
    2. cleaned carbon deposits out therefore better gas flow.
    no more than before. do check them for lash though.
    not so as you'd notice at this level - unless you removed a lot of material.
    best to leave the timing as factory.
     
    jim beam, Aug 22, 2006
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  3. Gary Kaucher

    Gary Kaucher Guest

    94 Honda Accord EX - 300K miles

    Yes. I guess the coolant wasn't doing my valves any good. Never saw coolant
    in the oil though.
    I guess that would have been next. Good thing I took Tegger's advice to
    "park it".


    What is "lash"?


    material.


    I don't think I removed a lot. I mostly took it off where it needed to be
    taken off.
    Getting the cylinder liners in the same plane with the rest of the deck was
    probably
    effective.



    I'm getting somewhere around 26 mph. So far (230 miles) the oil seems
    steady.
     
    Gary Kaucher, Aug 23, 2006
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  4. Gary Kaucher

    jim beam Guest

    water's not a problem for valves as far as i'm aware.
    that's a gasket thing, and it's rare on hondas due to the open deck
    design usually used.
    again, open deck [if that's what you had] made that unlikely. the
    expensive risk of continuing to run a blown gasket is hot gas cutting of
    the head or block at the leakage point.
    lash is the gap you use feeler gauges for. needs to be periodically
    adjusted.

    google " valve lash adjustment" and you'll get loads of how-to's.

    it's particularly important on hondas because they tend to wear "too
    tight" and burn valves. most other vehicles with inferior valve train
    componentry wear "too loose" and valve burn is less of a risk. don't
    want to take the head off again do you?
    if there is a ring wear problem, it'll take a few thousand to show up.
    fingers crossed.
     
    jim beam, Aug 23, 2006
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  5. Gary Kaucher

    Gary Kaucher Guest

    1) Should I adjust anything to reduce any "negative effects" resulting

    I took your advice and did the valve adjustments today. This car has 300K.
    From what
    I can see from the previous owner's records, the valves were
    "inspected/adjusted" at 30K and
    90K.

    The specs require .010 in. for the intake valves and .012 in. for the
    exhaust valves. Most of the
    intake valves were at .008 or .009. The exhaust valves were .010, except
    for Piston #2 which
    was a whopping .008. After adjusting them, I would say that the engine
    sounds better.

    Piston #2 is the one with the spark plug that I can't remove. It is about
    1/4" higher than the others.
    Also, when I sanded down the deck, the cylinder liner for Piston #2 was
    recessed below the deck.
    So there has been some "activity" in this area.

    Thanks for all the advice,

    Gary
     
    Gary Kaucher, Aug 28, 2006
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  6. Gary Kaucher

    jim beam Guest

    aaargh! while you had the head off, you could have dealt with this.
    remove the plug. brute force. clean thread from the piston side.
    14mm, 1.25mm pitch tap. usually seized because the thread's been
    crossed [tap from the piston side fixes this], crudded up because of gas
    leakage [tap from the piston side fixes this] or it's the wrong plug!!!
    not necessarily connected.
     
    jim beam, Aug 28, 2006
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  7. Gary Kaucher

    Gary Kaucher Guest

    Piston #2 is the one with the spark plug that I can't remove. It is
    about
    Yeah. I'm kicking myself. Looks like this plug is going to "go the
    distance".
     
    Gary Kaucher, Aug 28, 2006
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  8. Gary Kaucher

    Gary Kaucher Guest


    Observation:

    Since doing the valve adjustment, I find that a cold start of the engine
    creates an initial idle
    of 2000 RPM for awhile. After the engine warms up the idle speed seems to
    settle down to about 900 RPM in Neutral, and 850 RPM in Drive with brake on.
     
    Gary Kaucher, Aug 28, 2006
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  9. Gary Kaucher

    jim beam Guest

    that's correct behavior.
     
    jim beam, Aug 29, 2006
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