94 Accord LX 5 spd. - Clutch problem

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Clara Garcia, Aug 21, 2003.

  1. Clara Garcia

    Clara Garcia Guest

    I have a '94 Accord sedan that I bought in Texas and brought to Spain a few
    years ago. It has a clutch problem that my nearest Honda dealer has been
    unable to solve after several visits and repair attempts.

    The clutch pedal and shift gears work fine when the car is cold or during
    colder weather. But as I use the car in traffic during the warmer hours of
    the day (specially now in the torrid summer weather of sunny Spain), the
    pedal gets much stiffer and the clutch engagement point moves up to the
    point that the gears start slipping (in some cases the engagement point
    moves so high that the gears seem not to engage, even with the cluch pedal
    totally released). Even when the do gears engage, if I apply a bit of power
    to the engine I can easily notice the slippage.

    During cooler hours of the day or when I start using the car in the morning,
    the problem seems to have gone away, gear shifting is back to normal and the
    engamement point moves down to its regular position in the clutch pedal.

    Any clue as to what could be happening? I'm getting desperate with the
    local Honda shop not being able to solve the mistery.

    Thanks
     
    Clara Garcia, Aug 21, 2003
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  2. Clara Garcia

    John D. Guest

    Just curious: If a Honda dealer "can't solve" the problem with all his
    probably ASE-certified mechanics actually having the car to look at,
    test and work on -- after "several visits" even -- what makes you
    think anyone HERE can, via long distance and sight-unseen?

    If said dealer IS 100% incompetent, drive to the NEXT nearest dealer
    -- in town or out -- and get a second opinion.

    John D.
     
    John D., Aug 22, 2003
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  3. Clara Garcia

    John D. Guest

    Just curious: If a Honda dealer "can't solve" the problem with all his
    probably ASE-certified mechanics actually having the car to look at,
    test and work on -- after "several visits" even -- what makes you
    think anyone HERE can, via long distance and sight-unseen?

    If said dealer IS 100% incompetent, drive to the NEXT nearest dealer
    -- in town or out -- and get a second opinion.

    John D.
     
    John D., Aug 22, 2003
    #3
  4. True enough.
    If it was my car, I'd be replacing the slave cylinder, though.
    I doubt the dealer is replicating the "client fault conditions."
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Aug 22, 2003
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  5. True enough.
    If it was my car, I'd be replacing the slave cylinder, though.
    I doubt the dealer is replicating the "client fault conditions."
     
    Stephen Bigelow, Aug 22, 2003
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  6. Clara Garcia

    Clara Garcia Guest

    Your comment is very reasonable. However, let me give you some explanation:

    First, the model car exactly like mine was never sold in the Spanish market,
    and the dealer here is not as familiar with it. It's a US-made model.
    There's probably not much difference in the clutch system from the Accord
    models sold here in the same year, but who knows. The Accord models are
    certainly not identical.

    Then, the dealer has been graceful enough to not charge me anything on the
    last two repair attemps. I know that it may get to the point where I will
    have to find some other dealer in the area, but they will charge me for sure
    whatever they do. And the present dealer are nice folks and have worked very
    competently on my car until now, so I did not want to jump into someone else
    until I have no other alternative.

    I was thinking that perhaps someone in this forum had had a similar problem
    before, and could give me a hint that I could pass on to the dealer. I know
    it's a long shot, but thanks anyhow.

    Clara
     
    Clara Garcia, Aug 22, 2003
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  7. Clara Garcia

    Clara Garcia Guest

    Your comment is very reasonable. However, let me give you some explanation:

    First, the model car exactly like mine was never sold in the Spanish market,
    and the dealer here is not as familiar with it. It's a US-made model.
    There's probably not much difference in the clutch system from the Accord
    models sold here in the same year, but who knows. The Accord models are
    certainly not identical.

    Then, the dealer has been graceful enough to not charge me anything on the
    last two repair attemps. I know that it may get to the point where I will
    have to find some other dealer in the area, but they will charge me for sure
    whatever they do. And the present dealer are nice folks and have worked very
    competently on my car until now, so I did not want to jump into someone else
    until I have no other alternative.

    I was thinking that perhaps someone in this forum had had a similar problem
    before, and could give me a hint that I could pass on to the dealer. I know
    it's a long shot, but thanks anyhow.

    Clara
     
    Clara Garcia, Aug 22, 2003
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  8. Clara Garcia

    Clara Garcia Guest


    I'll make sure that the slave cylinder is looked at or better yet replaced.

    Thanks for the advice !
     
    Clara Garcia, Aug 22, 2003
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  9. Clara Garcia

    Clara Garcia Guest


    I'll make sure that the slave cylinder is looked at or better yet replaced.

    Thanks for the advice !
     
    Clara Garcia, Aug 22, 2003
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  10. Clara Garcia

    Chip Stein Guest

    grab a flashlight and look under the dash at the firewall by the
    clutch pedal, there you will see the clutch mast rod. does it have
    nasty goo around the bottom? replace the master and slave. if one
    is going the other is not far behind. while they have the slave off,
    have them remove the fork boot and lube the fork pivot.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Aug 23, 2003
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  11. Clara Garcia

    Chip Stein Guest

    grab a flashlight and look under the dash at the firewall by the
    clutch pedal, there you will see the clutch mast rod. does it have
    nasty goo around the bottom? replace the master and slave. if one
    is going the other is not far behind. while they have the slave off,
    have them remove the fork boot and lube the fork pivot.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Aug 23, 2003
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  12. I am having the same problem with my 86 prelude. My car uses a cable
    instead of hydraulics to operate the clutch. (I have checked cable, and
    it is not binding). You did not mention your milage. My first clutch
    lasted 100k and the one in the car now has over 100k. Based on info I
    have found, the pressure plate, the throw out bearing is bad, or you
    have air in the hydraulic line. If your clutch is slipping (engine
    revs. but car doesn't speed up) then you need a new clutch anyway.
     
    William Burke, Aug 24, 2003
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  13. Clara Garcia

    accordtuner Guest

    I'm having a similar problem. I changed the clutch master cylinder and
    slave cylinder. Plus, I just changed my clutch 2 month's ago. It is
    still slipping.

    Did you find out what the problem was?????

    Let me know. Thanks.
     
    accordtuner, Oct 2, 2003
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