94 Civic AC switch pinout?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by remove, Aug 4, 2004.

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    remove Guest

    A customer brought in a 94 Civic with an AC concern. The system is tight
    and charged but the compressor won't engage. I was able to check the
    system back to the AC relay and found that whatever grounds the
    relay...doesn't. I don't have a wiring diagram, Is there anything
    between the coil ground pin of the relay and the switch on the
    instrument panel? I suspect the switch. If I had the pinout for the
    switch I can troubleshoot from there. Can anyone provide this
    information? IIRC there are 5 pins on the switch. I've got 1 pin with
    switched power and 1 ground for sure. I imagine 1 is for the
    illumination of the switch. That leaves 2 unknown terminals.Any input
    would be appreciated.
    Thanks, Tom
     
    remove, Aug 4, 2004
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    Randolph Guest

    Yes. The relay coil ground pin is connected to the ECU. When the ECU
    gets a request for A/C, it will delay turning on the relay while it
    enriches the air/fuel mixture a bit. The A/C request comes to the ECU
    through the A/C pressure switch, the A/C thermostat at the evaporator,
    the A/C main switch and the ventilation fan switch.
    That's a lot of pins, don't recall it having that many. Are you sure
    this is an OEM Honda A/C? I once had a Civic where the dealer had
    installed an after-market A/C.
    You can find the wiring diagram at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/civicmanual/pdf/22-6.pdf. This wiring
    diagram is for the European Civic, but it is identical to the US version
    with three minor exceptions:

    1. Ground for the condenser fan goes to ground location G751 (EU: 701)

    2. Thermal protector for the compressor is shown as a separate item in
    the above referenced schematic. In the US schematic it is not shown, but
    it is still installed in the car (internal to the compressor)

    3. The A/C on indicator in the EU schematic is shown as a simple light
    bulb. In the US variety it is shown as an LED connected through a
    dimming circuit.

    I have compared the above referenced .pdf with the wiring diagram in the
    Helm manual for my '94 Civic, and find only the above mentioned
    discrepancies. Wire colors, fuse numbers and ratings etc. match.

    A couple of trouble shooting tips: If the A/C-on indicator does not turn
    on, the problem is in the A/C main switch, or, more likely, in the
    ventilation fan switch.

    If the condenser fan comes on but the compressor does not, the most
    likely problem is the A/C pressure switch. It could be a faulty pressure
    switch, or improper pressure in the system. I do not know if this is a
    high pressure lockout or a low pressure lockout. I have seen both on
    various cars.
     
    Randolph, Aug 4, 2004
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    remove Guest

    Hey, Thank you very much. That is exactly what I needed. The AC switch
    was indeed defective.
     
    remove, Aug 4, 2004
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