'95 Accord: Keyless Entry Install

Discussion in 'Accord' started by WaterWatcher, Apr 30, 2005.

  1. WaterWatcher

    WaterWatcher Guest

    Hi all. I'm contemplating installing a keyless entry system on my '95
    Accord. Nothing fancy, just the remote lock/unlock system. Does anyone
    know how hard it is for a home mechanic to install one? It has standard
    power locks and I have Haynes and Chiltons manuals for the car. Also, any
    recommendations as which system to get, and where to get it? The local car
    stereo shop wants $150 for one installed and I'm trying to save installation
    costs (so I can pay it to the gas station @ $2.65 a gallon ).

    Thanks for any help.

    Ray
     
    WaterWatcher, Apr 30, 2005
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    motsco_ _ Guest

     
    motsco_ _, Apr 30, 2005
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  3. WaterWatcher

    WaterWatcher Guest

    Yes, I'm near a Wally World. Any clues as to how hard they are to install?

    Thanks, Ray
     
    WaterWatcher, Apr 30, 2005
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    disallow Guest

    Not sure if your car already has power locks?

    My 98 Civic didn't and I installed aftermarket
    lock actuators. You just need to find where the
    wires for the lock actuators go, and splice them
    into the unit as per instructions.

    For me, I just wired the lock actuators into
    my alarm (aftermarket) and the guy who did the
    alarm put in an extra relay to control them.

    Sorry this isn't more helpful... let me know if
    you already have power locks.

    t
     
    disallow, Apr 30, 2005
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  5. WaterWatcher

    WaterWatcher Guest

    Yes, I already have power locks. I'm just looking to add the remote control
    function.
    Thanks for the help.

    Ray
     
    WaterWatcher, May 1, 2005
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    Seth Guest

    Factory power lock wires can be found in the bundle of wires behind the
    drivers side kick panel. IIRC, 20ga white and lt blue are the 2 wires.
     
    Seth, May 1, 2005
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    Randolph Guest

    It is not hard to do, I put keyless entry in a friend's '96 Accord (4
    door, don't remember what trim level) a few years back. That car already
    had power locks, like yours. My friend is one of those guys who never
    allow enough time, so we only had about 2 hours and did it in the
    parking lot of a doughnut shop. I have done this kind of work before,
    and we didn't add all the bells and whistles. A few weeks later we had
    another 45-minute session where I hooked up the priority unlock feature
    and the horn. Same parking lot...

    I got a $40 unit (part number 330-145) from http://www.partsexpress.com,
    see http://tinyurl.com/3eb77. I also put one of these in my brother's
    VW. This unit is nice because it has on-board relays that can be
    configured to work with pretty much any factor power door lock system.
    both the installs have worked fine now for several years.

    The basic install gives you keyless lock and unlock with confirmation by
    flashing parking lights. By default, the system will lock all doors a
    few seconds after you turn on the ignition, but this feature can be
    turned off by programming.

    You can also connect a wire to the horn relay and get the system to give
    confirmation by beeping the horn. If you do connect the horn wire, the
    feature can be turned off by programming the system after your next door
    neighbor complains about the noise...

    With an additional relay, the system will turn on the dome light every
    time you use the remote to unlock the car. The dome light will turn off
    after 30 seconds or when you turn on the ignition, whichever comes
    first. This feature is not programmable, if you wire up the dome light
    it will always come on with when you unlock with the remote.

    The unit can also be wired for remote trunk release. You will need an
    actuator unless the car already has one, most Honda's use a cable
    release rather than an electrical actuator for the trunk. A relay is
    also needed.

    There is an option to add a starter cut relay. If the car was locked
    with the remote, the starter cut relay will prevent the starter from
    engaging until you unlock the car with the remote. If you lock with the
    remote and unlock with the key (or break the window), the car will not
    start. I did not install this option, I think of it more as a hassle
    than security. Any would-be thief worth his crow bar will easily
    hot-wire around the starter-cut relay. Note that the wiring diagram for
    the starter cut relay is wrong in the instructions that came with the
    keyless entry system.

    Lastly, the system can be wired so that only the driver's door unlocks
    on the first press of the button, the rest of the doors unlock on the
    second press of the button. All doors will always lock on the first
    press of the lock button. The wires for this setup are already in your
    car, but you will need to open up the driver's door to install a relay
    (not a big deal at all). If you opt for a basic installation initially,
    you can add this feature later with minimal rewiring.

    I mounted the control unit under the dash on the driver's side. I used
    tie wraps to mount the control unit to a fat wire harness. The unit is
    light weight, so no worries about super secure mounting. To get access,
    remove the coin pocket and unscrew the screw located inside the coin
    pocket opening. Then pry out the lower dash cover, it is mounted with
    clips and that one screw. Then remove the sheet metal knee bolster, one
    bolt in each corner, then lift up and pull towards you. Be careful when
    removing the bolts on the right hand side, I dropped one and it ended up
    deep inside the center console. You can see details of the cover /
    bolster removal if you go to
    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/instal/aii/pages/accord/1995/16659_01.html
    This is a very useful reference, many of the things you need to do are
    described here.

    Honda has been nice enough to provide options connectors in the fuse box
    on your Accord. See
    http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph/Accord/options_accord.pdf for a
    drawing of the fuse box in the 94-97 Accord. These connectors are
    infinitely useful when installing keyless entry, alarms and other good
    stuff. The function of each connector is as follows:

    Options connector "A" has battery voltage with the ignition switch in
    "ACC" and "RUN" but not "START". You will not need options connector
    "A".

    "B" has battery voltage with the ignition switch in "RUN" but not
    "START". The keyless remote system calls for a connection that is live
    in both "START" and "RUN", but unless you are connecting the starter cut
    relay (again, I wouldn't bother) you can safely use options connector
    "B" for your ignition switched power. "B" already has a 7.5 Amp fuse, so
    no absolute need to provide your own in-line fuse.

    "C" is connected to the parking lights. The keyless remote receiver can
    flash the parking lights to confirm locking and unlocking. The parking
    lights wire from the keyless entry can be connected directly to options
    connector "C". Inline fuse already provided.

    "D" has battery voltage at all times, fused only with a 50 Amp fuse in
    the under-hood fuse box. Connect the constant power lead from the
    keyless entry system here. You need an in-line fuse which the wiring
    harness for the PartsEspress unit already has.

    To connect to to options connectors, regular 1/4" quick-connects work
    fine. See http://tinyurl.com/2zpux

    There are two ways to connect to the power door lock system. someone
    else suggested tapping in to the wires to the lock actuators. This
    works, and in some cars is your only option. It is better to connect to
    the control wires for the power locks rather than the actuator wires,
    and in the Accord the control wires are already made available for this.
    See point 20 in the instructions at hondaautomotiveparts. For a basic
    install, you will need only two of those three wires, ORN for unlock,
    BLK/WHT for lock.

    When taping into the car wires, most people use wire taps like
    http://tinyurl.com/ac5un. They work fine, but you have no easy way of
    disconnecting your own wiring from the car. I like to use on of these
    http://tinyurl.com/afr9j snapped onto the factory wire. Then I put one
    of these http://tinyurl.com/cbrdh on my own wire, and plug the two
    together. It is a very snug and secure fit, but it can be unplugged
    should there be a need.

    So, for a wiring summary, assuming you do not use the priority unlock
    feature:

    Wire color
    in keyless
    entry harness Connects to

    1. BLACK Body Ground
    2. RED Options connector "D"
    3. WHITE Options connector "C"
    4. VIOLET Body Ground
    5. BLUE/BLACK ORANGE, car lock harness
    6. BROWN/BLACK Not used. Tape off
    7. VIOLET/BLACK Body Ground
    8. GREEN/BLACK BLACK/WHITE, car lock harness
    9. WHITE/BLACK Not used. Tape off
    10. ORANGE Not used. Tape off
    11. BLACK/YELLOW Not used. Tape off
    12. GRAY Not used. Tape off
    13. BROWN/WHITE LIGHT GREEN/ BLUE wire by horn relay
    14. BLUE/WHITE Not used. Tape off
    15. YELLOW Options Connector "B"

    Should you want the dome light feature, get a relay like
    http://tinyurl.com/34457. BLACK/YELLOW wire from keyless unit to
    terminal 86 of the relay (numbers stamped on bottom of relay), terminal
    30 to body ground, terminal 85 to options connector "D" using 10 Amp
    in-line fuse and terminal 87 to the dome light wire. This is going to be
    a pain, you need the BLACK/WHITE wire that goes between the dome light
    and the instrument cluster. You can not use the wires to the door
    switches, as this will cause a "door open" alarm and (if using the
    driver's door switch) a headlights on alarm during the 30 seconds the
    keyless entry unit turns on the dome light.

    Should you want to wire it with the priority unlock feature, let me know
    and I'll post the wiring for that too.
     
    Randolph, May 2, 2005
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  8. WaterWatcher

    WaterWatcher Guest

    Wow, Randolph! What a great writeup! Thanks for taking the time for
    helping me out. I have some replies and questions inline:

    This unit looks like what I want.
    It's my wife's car, and she likes that feature, so I'll want to include it.
    It's an Accord wagon, so it has a power lock for the tailgate. I need an
    additional relay for that?
    I think I will take your advice and not install this.
    I would like to add this perhaps later. I'll just do the basic install now
    and see how that goes before tackling anything more complicated.
    I'm a little confused here. Step 20 says something about plugging the
    connector marked E into the fuse box. Is that what you mean by point 20?
    Are the ORN and BLK/WHT wires there?
    The dome light feature would be nice but perhaps is not worth the trouble.
    I'd like to eventually add this but I'll probably just start with the basic
    lock/unlock/flash lights/blow horn/ and perhaps unlock the rear hatch too.
    Sounds like I need to order the unit itself, the connectors you suggested,
    and a relay for the rear hatch? Anything else I'll need? Several hours of
    my time and a trip to the chiropractor? ;-)

    Thanks again Randolph. I really appreciate it!
    Ray
     
    WaterWatcher, May 4, 2005
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    Randolph Guest

    Yes, a relay is needed. http://tinyurl.com/34457 will do the job.
    Terminal 86 goes to the gray wire in the remote entry wire harness.
    Terminal 85 goes to options connector "D", terminal 87 goes to the wire
    that leads to the tail gate actuator. I don't have the wiring diagram
    for the wagon, so I don't know the wire color. Most likely one side of
    the tail gate actuator is connected to ground, the other side to +12V
    through a switch or relay. If this is the case, terminal 30 of your
    relay should connect to options connector "D". Haynes will have the
    wiring diagram for the wagon so you can find out how it is wired and
    what wire colors to look for.
    My mistake, I was looking at a the '96 instructions, not the '95 ones.
    Point 21 is what you want. This difference is kind of a bummer; The '95
    was /not/ pre-wired for the priority unlock feature (driver's door only
    on first button press). If you want the priority unlock feature you will
    have to pull a new wire into the door. That /can/ be done, but is kind
    of a pain.
    While you have the lower dash cover off, poke around in there. You might
    just find the wire you need. The wires from the dome light should come
    down along or inside the driver's side A-pillar. Do you have a sun/moon
    roof?
    As mentioned above, that feature would be quite a bit more work to
    implement on the '95 than it was on the '96.
    I'd spring for a good crimping tool. The style you find in most auto
    parts stores (looks like http://tinyurl.com/8l33d) makes it very hard to
    do good crimps. This type: http://tinyurl.com/92mhu works really well.
    The only thing to keep in mind is that this tool is not symmetrical. If
    you look at the jaws of the tool, there are colored dots on one side
    next to the different size crimp slots (Usually Red, Blue and Yellow).
    The back side has no colored dots. You place the connector in the jaws
    of the tool in such a way that you insert the wire from the side with
    the colored dots. If you reverse this, the crimps won't hold.

    One last word of caution: There might be slight differences in wiring in
    different body styles and different model years of each generation
    Accord. '95 and '96 are the same generation, but some differences occur.
    The differences are usually pointed out in the shop manuals (Haynes,
    Chilton, Helm etc.) if they are significant.
     
    Randolph, May 4, 2005
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