96 Accord timing belt parts list

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Grey-hound, Dec 16, 2004.

  1. Grey-hound

    Grey-hound Guest

    Just bought a used 96 Accord w/110,000 miles on it. There is no indication
    the timing belt was done. I need a parts list (water pump?)on a complete
    timing belt job for me to do it myself. I have never done it on an Accord
    but lots of experience on 300ZX's timing belt changes .Is it better to go
    Honda on these parts? Anything else I should change out while I'm in there?
    Any good Honda online ordering houses?How long does the job take? Any
    special tools req'd? Tips and tricks appreciated!
    Thanks
    Greyhound
     
    Grey-hound, Dec 16, 2004
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  2. Grey-hound

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Maybe it's not WAY overdue, maybe you should check with the dealer(s) to
    see if it's been done. They will help you, if you take along proof of
    ownership.

    Allow 4+ hours by yourself, and get a tool to hold the crank pulley, a
    deep 17mm socket for the motor mount, and a 19mm for the pulley bolt.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Dec 16, 2004
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  3. Where to start....

    You can be sure the timing belt wasn't done, being sold at that mileage.

    Allow all day, but there is one important preliminary you can - and probably
    should - do ahead of time. The crank bolt can be anywhere between tight and
    ^#$%%! tight. The job flows much more smoothly if you can get that bolt
    loose and retightened to the correct torque before you actually begin. To
    facilitate that, if you aren't going to take it to a shop that has air tools
    to break it loose, you will want to see whether the pulley (harmonic damper)
    has a 50mm hex inset in it (in most '96 model engines it does). If so, a
    holder is available for about $25 plus shipping from
    http://www.autopart.com/TOOLS/TOOLSMAIN/tool/T_A812.htm There are options,
    but I found it best to take the plunge for the right tool. That and a 500
    ft-lb impact driver barely got the last one loose, but with the holder you
    have the option of using giant breaker bars. 3 foot breaker bars, 200 lbs
    force, that should do it. Hit the bolt with penetrant before trying the
    first time, and after each attempt. Can't hurt!

    Once that hurdle is passed, things are more straightforward. I recommend
    replacing the tensioner(s) - they are shockingly expensive, nearly $100, but
    their lifespans are about the same as the belt. I'd replace the water pump.
    There is a lot of controversy about that, since the Honda water pumps are
    very good quality and reliable. But the thought of going through all that
    again to replace a $40 part, and with the risk the water pump will seize,
    kill the belt and destroy the engine - well, it keeps me doing it. I'd also
    replace the front crank seal and the cam seals while everything is apart -
    same rationale, but without the risk of catastrophic damage. Don't lose
    sleep if you ignore the seals - they are probably fine. But you do need a
    new valve cover gasket.

    I go to the dealer and get genuine Honda parts for this - a modest price
    premium to ensure I get the same parts that got it this far. (Ditto for
    alternators and starters, but for a different reason - aftermarket units are
    truly bad.)

    Finally, before removing the belt, make match-marks with acrylic paint or
    similar on the side of the belt at each pulley (matching the belt to the
    pulley). Transfer the marks to the new belt, and use them to verify the belt
    timing is exactly as you found it. I got that advice from a guru in the
    Acura group (IIRC) and it saved my bacon. Those cam pulleys just don't want
    to line up.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 16, 2004
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  4. Grey-hound

    Grey-hound Guest

    Wow! Excellent reply and at least now I know what to expect.
    Thanks!
     
    Grey-hound, Dec 17, 2004
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  5. Grey-hound

    Eric Guest

    http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com
     
    Eric, Dec 17, 2004
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  6. Grey-hound

    disallow Guest

    Just playing devil's advocate here (since I also replaced
    my waterpump during this job), but if your waterpump is
    working well, is there a higher probability that it will
    fail? or that the new one will be defective? Probably
    not an issue if you buy a Honda Pump.

    As far as the tensioner goes, my dealer looked at me real
    funny when I asked for that part. He said that he has
    never sold one before for any model of Honda. I took his
    word, and left mine as is.

    t
     
    disallow, Dec 17, 2004
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  7. I share your misgivings about the new parts - I had a rebuilt fail on the
    second day in an older car (easy to change pump). Whether I am deluding
    myself or not, a go with Honda pumps for that reason.

    The tensioner we took out of my son's Acura definitely had lost its
    lubrication at 130K miles. It made metallic sounds as we spun it. The dealer
    had it in stock.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 18, 2004
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  8. Grey-hound

    Eric Guest

    At some shops, the tensioner is commonly replaced if it shows the wear signs
    that Michael has discussed. My test is as follows, remove the tensioner
    bearing assembly and spin it by hand, while it's spinning rock it back and
    forth, a worn tensioner bearing will usually make a very characteristic
    metallic bearing sound under these conditions.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Dec 19, 2004
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