96 Accord water pump

Discussion in 'Accord' started by begemotb, Jul 24, 2006.

  1. begemotb

    begemotb Guest

    I've treated my 1996 Accord LX 4-cyl well. It's a great car, never
    complains, and is always ready to go. It's had all the scheduled
    services (or so I thought), plus a new oil pan after a quick change
    place overtightened the drain plug. It's low mileage - it only has
    104,000 miles - but over the last year I've been driving it a lot more
    than before and taking it on cross-country trips every few months, so I
    like the peace of mind that having it well-maintained brings. At the
    beginning of the summer I had the radiator replaced at the first sign
    of leaking around the infamous crimp around the top.

    The timing belt was replaced at 90,000 miles. Looking at my records,
    though, I noticed that there was no mention of the water pump. I
    called my old dealer (I've moved and have a better dealer now), and was
    told that they don't replace the water pump with the first timing belt,
    because they almost never fail before the second timing belt.

    If I knew then what I know now, I would have had the pump replaced
    then. Water under the bridge. Now I'm about to go in for my 105,000
    service. I'm wondering if I should have them go in and replace the
    water pump. I don't need a new timing belt, obviously, and it's a bad
    time for me to do this financially. I'd rather wait until 120,000 when
    I'll either have more cash or a new Honda altogether.

    I'd appreciate your thoughts on how urgent this is. My new dealer said
    he'd check at 105,000 to see if it was leaking, but otherwise it should
    be fine. But I've heard horror stories about water pumps seizing and
    causing the timing belt to break. Thanks for any insight on whether
    this will leave me stranded in the middle of nowhere before 120,000
    miles.

    Josh
     
    begemotb, Jul 24, 2006
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  2. begemotb

    jim beam Guest

    it's not urgent. it's a honda. ideally, yes, replace while you're in
    there because it makes no economic sense to skimp on a $45 part in the
    middle of a $500 job, but bottom line is that genuine honda pumps are
    very reliable and you're unlikely to have any problems. the original
    honda pump on my crx flaked out at 305k miles. if you use aftermarket
    pumps however, they are much less reliable so reduced change schedules
    are essential.
     
    jim beam, Jul 24, 2006
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  3. begemotb

    Earle Horton Guest

    Wow! My dealer told me that they "always" replace the water pump with the
    timing belt, because they are hard to get to, and easy with the timing belt
    off. That was certainly my experience. However, Honda doesn't recommend
    this in the Owner's Manual. I suppose that Honda only recommends replacing
    the water pump, when it fails.

    If you have kept the original coolant, or only used Honda Genuine coolant
    when topping off or changing it, then I think that your water pump is
    probably OK. Usually, they fail because of a coolant seal leak, usually
    caused by contaminated or improper coolant. That then leaks on the bearing,
    which damages the bearing seal, leading to loss of bearing grease and the
    horror stories that you have heard.

    I would not worry about this. I would take your dealer up on his offer to
    check for water pump leaks at the 105,000 mile service. If you park in the
    same spot every night, always check for suspicious fluid spots in the
    morning. I suspect that you do that already!

    Earle
     
    Earle Horton, Jul 24, 2006
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  4. begemotb

    begemotb Guest

    Ahh, the CRX. My first car, at age 15, was an 86 CRX. Considering what
    I did to it - driving like a 15-year-old - and what I didn't do to it -
    changing the oil like I should've - that CRX was what got me hooked on
    Hondas. Between that CRX and my current Accord, I've never had to turn
    the key twice to get them started. Ever. To be fair, I had an Altima in
    between that also never had any problems, but I never took it past
    100,000. I think all the Japanese cars are excellent, but I never worry
    that my Honda won't get me where I'm going, and that means a lot.

    Thanks to Jim and Earle for the sage advice about the water pump. Much
    appreciated.

    Josh
     
    begemotb, Jul 24, 2006
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  5. begemotb

    jim beam Guest

    the crx is what's got a /lot/ of people hooked on hondas! they were
    nuts to drop that car. :(
     
    jim beam, Jul 24, 2006
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