96 Civic iPod install question

Discussion in 'Civic' started by daveydave, Jan 2, 2005.

  1. daveydave

    daveydave Guest

    I've run into a bit of a snag and perhaps someone here can offer up
    some advice:
    So I'm installing a PIE Hon/AUX adapter in my 96 Civic and I removed my
    dashboard and pulled out both my radio headunit as well as the CD
    player (which is mounted down near the cupholders) in hopes of finding
    the port for the CD-Changer which the Hon/AUX adapter would plug into.
    Turns out that there is no 'extra' port on the CD player unit for
    anything to be plugged into and the only cd-player/changer input on the
    head unit is taken by the cd-player. I was probably naive in assuming
    that there would be another input for a cd-changer because all the
    diagrams I've seen have been for adding a hon/AUX to a tape deck which
    DOES have a cd-changer input on it. Now the disclaimer on Logjam's
    website about the Hon/AUX adapter not being compatible with vehicles
    that have the standard AM/FM radio with a single disc satellite-mounted
    CD player is making sense (so that's what they mean by
    satellite...hmmm). My question is how, if at all, have people added aux
    inputs to Hondas that have satellite-mounted CD players, and is there
    any way I can do this with the equipment I have? Thanks very much for
    reading.
    -Dave
     
    daveydave, Jan 2, 2005
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  2. daveydave

    daveydave Guest

    After some searching, I came across this device:
    http://www.logjamelectronics.com/blitzhonalpv1d.html
    It seems like it will allow both a CD-player and AUX. Anyone tries
    using one of these?
     
    daveydave, Jan 2, 2005
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  3. daveydave

    motsco_ _ Guest

    =================

    That's a really cool gizmo, if a bit expensive. Whatever trips your
    trigger. I think some of your interior wiring is routed thru your radio
    (even if you don't have alarm) so you might be way better to add the
    gizmo than to replace your whole head unit.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jan 2, 2005
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  4. daveydave

    dold Guest

    I would be willing to give up my CD player and use only the MP3.
    The only time I've inserted a CD in the last year is when I wanted to see
    how it switched between the logjam-PIE adapter and the internal CD.
     
    dold, Jan 3, 2005
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  5. daveydave

    dold Guest

    Do you have a round connector on your existing head unit, or a 14 pin
    connector? This unit has an Alpine connector, which I have in another car.
    The implication is that the adapter plugs in to the head unit, allowing an
    Alpine to plug into the adapter on a connector that I can't see in the
    photo, which may or may not be the same as your "satellite" Honda CD
    player. Time to call Logjam.
     
    dold, Jan 3, 2005
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  6. daveydave

    daveydave Guest

    Thanks for your replies so far. There's a round 8-pin DIN plug coming
    out from the CD-player and going into the head unit. The pinout and
    connector looks like the pins on the LEFT in this picture
    (http://www.discountcarstereo.com/images/other/honda_14_8.jpg) -- I
    think they call it an Alpine M-Bus but I'm not sure! It's not 14 pins
    though. I got an email response back from Logjam saying that I was out
    of luck due to my particular car/model/stereo setup but I keep on
    thinking there must be SOME way, either through adapter cables, etc.
    It'd be nice if they made splitters or switchers for the 8pin DIN
    (although I don't know what the other application for it would be!) I
    see multi-input switchers for RCA connection, but even if I were to go
    that route, I'd lose track/skip control of my CD-player. I bet this
    will end up costing more than a new stereo when I'm all said and done.
    Perhaps biting the bullet and losing the CD-player in favor of the ipod
    is the way to go. Hmm...any more thoughts? Thanks again.
     
    daveydave, Jan 3, 2005
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  7. daveydave

    dold Guest

    The 14 pin connector on that picture looks like my 2003 Honda OEM connector.

    http://www.logjamelectronics.com/piealpaiaux.html shows the three
    connections for head unit, ipod, and CD, but this is for an Alpine AI-Net.

    http://www.discountcarstereo.com/detail.aspx?ID=124 M-Bus Alpine.
    Oops. "Factory Alpine radios found in select Honda, Volvo, BMW, Land Rover,
    Ford etc are not V-Link compatible."

    I would think Logjam would know, but if you don't like their answer, you
    can contact PIE directly.


    http://www.logjamelectronics.com/blitzhonalpv1d.html doesn't say anything
    about the Alpine M-Bus. It just notes that it is compatible with Honda, so
    I would guess that it is the right adapter if you want to keep your CD.
    Blitzsafe support 201-569-5000 x5105.
    But that's a lot of money to keep the CD. You already have the other
    adapter? Have you tried it?
     
    dold, Jan 3, 2005
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  8. daveydave

    Randolph Guest

    Logjam probably knows their stuff, but just to be sure you could contact
    Blitzsafe at and ask if their HON/ALP V.1D
    (that is the device you found at Logjam, not?) would work in your
    particular setup. AIUI, Blitzsafe is the manufacturer of the device.
     
    Randolph, Jan 3, 2005
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  9. daveydave

    motsco_ _ Guest

    ------------------------

    You could pick up a AM/FM/CD stereo from eBay and then you'd have a
    vacant connector on the back (unless you feel you want to use cassette
    AND CD). EXCEPT: Does your Civic have that crazy stereo with one side
    'rounded' and the other side is square-cornered?

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jan 3, 2005
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  10. daveydave

    daveydave Guest

    I got another email from Logjam saying that the device was not intended
    for my factory unit. Kinda wish they'd answer my question about the
    types of input it has on it, rather than just shoot my hopes down
    outright, but it would be another $100 anyway. I think I can live
    without my CD-player and just rely on the use of my iPod from now on,
    especially since that's how my music is usually stored anyway. The
    Hon/Aux adapter works and sounds great. Thank you all for helping me
    out with this predicament!
     
    daveydave, Jan 3, 2005
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