'97 Accord EX Coupe Rust Analysis

Discussion in 'Accord' started by SmarSquid, Dec 31, 2004.

  1. SmarSquid

    SmarSquid Guest

    I'm looking at a '96 Accord EX Coupe. It's exactly the car I'm after, and in
    solid condition, however... I discovered rust when inspecting the rear
    undercarriage. I need some help analyzing whether this is a serious enough
    issue to disqualify the car.
    I will do my best to describe where the rust is. Under the rear of the car,
    set in 3-6 inches from where the bumper goes under the car is a piece of
    steel attached to the undercarriage that spans almost the entire wheel base.
    From what I recall, it is something like 4-5 inches wide, and 1/2" thick.

    I would say that this piece of steel is moderately rusted. Mostly on the
    passenger-side edge.

    I can get a good deal on the car, but I want to get another 75-100K out of
    it without it rusting out and becoming a safety hazard. I need something
    that will become mechanically untenable before body and frame issues come
    into play.
     
    SmarSquid, Dec 31, 2004
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  2. SmarSquid

    John Ings Guest

    Sounds like you're describing a rear suspension member.
    Rusted how? Surface rust? Eaten through with holes? Use a screwdriver
    to poke at it. Does the screwdriver go right through?
    Where are you? Is there salt on the roads in winter?

    Did you check the tops of the strut towers under the hood for rust?
    That's a frequent Honda rust disaster area. Also the doorsills,
    especially around the jacking points. Check the floorboards where
    water from footwear has soaked the carpet.
     
    John Ings, Dec 31, 2004
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  3. SmarSquid

    SmarSquid Guest

    It certainly appears to be surface rust, but further analysis (pokes and
    prods) is necessary before I would know whether or not the metal could be
    perforated or crushed. The car has always been in Colorado (my home state),
    according to the Carfax data. So, yes, salted roads are a seasonal variable
    in play here.

    I will also check the strut towers, but I am hopeful that you could give me
    further feedback on how to identify this area/these parts. Where exactly
    they are, and a basic description of what it looks like. I'm not all that
    mechanically inclined, and suspension components are a specific weakness for
    me.

    Floorboards and jack points - I can handle that.

    I also have close friends in the body shop industry. They may be able to
    offer feedback as well, but I am wondering how easy it is for someone like
    that to look at an existing car and extrapolate with reasonable accuracy
    what is likely to occur going forward.
     
    SmarSquid, Dec 31, 2004
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  4. SmarSquid

    John Ings Guest

    I lived in Denver for a year in 1969-70 and hardly saw any snow, but
    westward in the mountains there's sure lots, and eastward some too. So
    it would depend on just where the car was driven in Colorado.
    Above the front wheels are MacPherson struts, essentially shock
    absorbers with coil springs around them, or if the car uses torsion
    bars, just shock absorbers. If you look under the hood on the right
    and left sides near the firewall, you will see that the bodywork
    bulges upward there, and there is a big nut and washer right in the
    middle of this bulge. That's the top mounting nut for the shock
    absorber. Often this tower, which is an integral part of the bodywork,
    rusts out from the underside.
    Note that doorsills are hidden from topside inspection by plastic
    covers these days. Get the car up on a hoist and poke with that
    screwdriver from underneath.
    Any experienced bodyman should be able to do so, having been informed
    where YOU are going to be driving.
     
    John Ings, Dec 31, 2004
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