97 Accord HC emissions reaching CA state limit - any tricks?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by techman41973, Sep 16, 2007.

  1. techman41973

    techman41973 Guest

    I live in California and just got my 97 Accord smogged (230K miles).
    It passed, but barely. HC emissions for 15mph that was 57 with a
    maximum allowed of 58
    it did much better at 25mph 15/42
    For now I am fine, however I will need to get it resmogged right
    before I sell it in 6 months.
    its way out.
    At $800 with installation its not going to happen.
    6 months from now when I need to resmog before sale, are there any
    things I can do to help get the HC # just below the limit. (replace
    air filter, injector cleaner, elevation of test facility etc.)?
    Thanks
     
    techman41973, Sep 16, 2007
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  2. techman41973

    motsco_ Guest

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    At 230,000 MILES the cat doesn't owe anybody anything, but there are
    always a few things you may have missed. I don't know much about
    emissions, but have you ever checked your PCV, and do you keep your
    coolant reservoir full to MAX? Both can mess up mixture / timing. If you
    had access to an oscilloscope you could check both O2 sensors and
    replace / clean whichever one is not performing well. Injector cleaner
    might help too, as well as a fresh valve adjustment.

    This is all assuming you've done a proper tune-up.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Sep 16, 2007
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  3. techman41973

    2001jettavr6 Guest

    shouldnt cost 800 for a cat. You can just cut off the old one and get a
    replacement for like 90 bucks. Then change your O2 sensors those are
    the main reasons for having bad emissions tests. Other ways change your
    oil, air filter spark plugs, and get a bottle of seafoam and run it
    through your gas to clean out spark plugs. Depending on the brand of
    each item other than the 7 dollar bottle of seafoam it could run you
    between 120-200 dollars if you put on the cat yourself.
     
    2001jettavr6, Sep 16, 2007
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  4. techman41973

    jim beam Guest

    new plugs, plug leads, air filter, quality oil, and a good hard full
    throttle run to burn the carbon clogging out of the system. beyond
    that, you're into sensors and cats.

    and don't forget, selling a car in ca without smog is not a practical
    problem. it might affect your price a little, but you can still sell it
    to a buyer that's ok with fixing it before registration.
     
    jim beam, Sep 16, 2007
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  5. And remember, don't smog test your car with a cold engine. Drive it for
    at least 30 minutes before having it tested.


    - Peter
     
    Peter Lawrence, Sep 17, 2007
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    autocheck, Sep 17, 2007
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    Mike Romain Guest

    Here in Canada, the emission certificate is good for one year so a
    second test would not be needed.

    What is the expiry time limit on yours?

    A clean air filter can do wonders for HC's also.

    Mike
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    Mike Romain, Sep 17, 2007
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  8. Then your only choice is to unload that POS now while it can still
    pass smog.
     
    Scott in SoCal, Sep 18, 2007
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    johngdole Guest

    If the car is generally well tuned (timing belt, plugs, valve
    clearance, gaskets, no vacuum leak), then oxygen sensors should help.
    I fixed a P0420 catalytic converter efficiency below threshold problem
    with high HC output with two Bosch planar oxygen sensors (~$75
    universal type).

    Of course, those who know, Honda recommends a new converter. But with
    these P0420 showing up so early on some cars, I figured the cheap
    Denso sensors were just junk and would stay away from them.

    NTK sensors (a part of the NGK/NTK company)should also be fine. IMO
    NGK makes excellent Iridium spark plugs.

    The valve clearances usually become tight on some Hondas, so "adjust
    only when noisy" really don't apply. You might want to check these too
    if havent done so. Early exhaust valve openings might not help
    either.

    www.ngksparkplugs.com
    http://www.boschautoparts.com/Products/OxygenSensors/PlanarO2.htm
     
    johngdole, Sep 20, 2007
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    TE Chea Guest

    | Here in Canada

    I saw on tv : in 1-98 Canada had record cold, here in msia we
    had record heat ( El Nino, air tmprtre reached 37°C ) during
    1-98 to 3-98. These 2 unusual weathers look related.
     
    TE Chea, Oct 22, 2007
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