97 Accord with 260K "uses" oil on long highway drives

Discussion in 'Accord' started by techman41973, Nov 8, 2008.

  1. techman41973

    techman41973 Guest

    I have noticed that my Accord has been using oil on long freeway
    drives (400 miles +)
    I seem to be low 1/2-1quart after a long freeway drive.
    I may also be losing oil on normal driving (but its probably less).
    I don't see any leaks when the car is parked. Not sure if its being
    burned or whats happening to it.
    Has anyone else experienced this on their Honda engine?
    Do those oil treatments help? Which ones would you recommend
     
    techman41973, Nov 8, 2008
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  2. techman41973

    jim beam Guest

    burning off.

    this is common on higher mileage hondas. it was suggested to me recently
    that high detergent oils can help remove carbon deposits on piston rings
    and help them seal better. i can't say this is true because i haven't
    done the research, but i have to say, that since i started using mobil 1 a
    couple of years back, my oil consumption has decreased from 2 quarts per
    5k miles down to <1/2. it's not an immediate effect, but you could give
    it a try.

    don't use oil additives - spend the extra money buying a quality oil in
    the first place.
     
    jim beam, Nov 8, 2008
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  3. techman41973

    jim beam Guest

    burning off.

    this is common on higher mileage hondas. it was suggested to me recently
    that high detergent oils can help remove carbon deposits on piston rings
    and help them seal better. i can't say this is true because i haven't
    done the research, but i have to say, that since i started using mobil 1 a
    couple of years back, my oil consumption has decreased from 2 quarts per
    5k miles down to <1/2. it's not an immediate effect, but you could give
    it a try.

    don't use oil additives - spend the extra money buying a quality oil in
    the first place.
     
    jim beam, Nov 8, 2008
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  4. techman41973

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    By all means, buy STP. But only because Andy Granatelli was one of
    the great characters in motor racing. The product itself is snake
    oil.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Nov 9, 2008
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  5. techman41973

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    By all means, buy STP. But only because Andy Granatelli was one of
    the great characters in motor racing. The product itself is snake
    oil.
     
    Dillon Pyron, Nov 9, 2008
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  6. "Screw the car--I want to know what that lawn chair Andy's sitting in is
    made of!"
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Nov 9, 2008
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  7. "Screw the car--I want to know what that lawn chair Andy's sitting in is
    made of!"
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Nov 9, 2008
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  8. techman41973

    johngdole Guest

    It's probably going into the combustion chamber. This usually happens
    when you have:

    1. Worn piston rings

    2. Worn valve stem seals

    If the cylinder walls/rings are worn then a High Mileage oil may help.
    Synthetics like Mobil-1, and especially their High Mileage versions,
    are said to burn off less because of the higher viscosity:

    http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_High_Mileage_10W-30.aspx
     
    johngdole, Nov 9, 2008
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  9. techman41973

    johngdole Guest

    It's probably going into the combustion chamber. This usually happens
    when you have:

    1. Worn piston rings

    2. Worn valve stem seals

    If the cylinder walls/rings are worn then a High Mileage oil may help.
    Synthetics like Mobil-1, and especially their High Mileage versions,
    are said to burn off less because of the higher viscosity:

    http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_High_Mileage_10W-30.aspx
     
    johngdole, Nov 9, 2008
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  10. techman41973

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Angel hair???
     
    Dillon Pyron, Nov 10, 2008
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  11. techman41973

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Angel hair???
     
    Dillon Pyron, Nov 10, 2008
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  12. Angel hair???[/QUOTE]

    Plainly you haven't been a long-time reader of Car and Driver.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Nov 10, 2008
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  13. Angel hair???[/QUOTE]

    Plainly you haven't been a long-time reader of Car and Driver.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Nov 10, 2008
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  14. My thought is that it is gradually consuming oil (at that mileage it is no
    mystery) and that the drop during freeway use is a combination of burning
    oil and of evaporating water that has gradually accumulated in the oil in
    city driving - unless the oil was recently changed. Not really much you can
    do about it except to make sure you use only API certified oil; some that
    are not API certified (like Amsoil) have excess ZDDP, which may not be a big
    problem with low oil consumption but will quickly poison your catalytic
    converter if you burn much oil. Same applies to STP - unless they have
    changed formulation recently it could kill your catalytic converter. For
    more on that see http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 12, 2008
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  15. My thought is that it is gradually consuming oil (at that mileage it is no
    mystery) and that the drop during freeway use is a combination of burning
    oil and of evaporating water that has gradually accumulated in the oil in
    city driving - unless the oil was recently changed. Not really much you can
    do about it except to make sure you use only API certified oil; some that
    are not API certified (like Amsoil) have excess ZDDP, which may not be a big
    problem with low oil consumption but will quickly poison your catalytic
    converter if you burn much oil. Same applies to STP - unless they have
    changed formulation recently it could kill your catalytic converter. For
    more on that see http://www.lnengineering.com/oil.html

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 12, 2008
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  16. techman41973

    Tegger Guest


    Check your spark plugs. Do they have crusty white deposits on them? Then
    you're burning oil. If you're burning oil then you have worn rings.

    You won't see smoke until usage is about 200mi/qt or so; the cat will burn
    it off before it gets out.
     
    Tegger, Nov 12, 2008
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  17. techman41973

    Tegger Guest


    Check your spark plugs. Do they have crusty white deposits on them? Then
    you're burning oil. If you're burning oil then you have worn rings.

    You won't see smoke until usage is about 200mi/qt or so; the cat will burn
    it off before it gets out.
     
    Tegger, Nov 12, 2008
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