97 civic starting problem

Discussion in 'Civic' started by cavetrekker, Dec 3, 2004.

  1. cavetrekker

    cavetrekker Guest

    We have a 97 civic coupe that we passed on to our daughter. It has a strange
    problem I can't figure out. Last night we replaced the battery and it
    wouldn't start today. I came home and after spending about thirty minutes
    checking stuff out while she tried to start it I got in it and tried to
    start it giving it a little gas and it sputtered a little and a cloud of
    white smoke came out of the tail pipe it and it missed a little and within
    10 seconds it was running fine. After I got to thinking I remembered when we
    put the battery in it she started it and let it run a few seconds and then
    shut it off. I also remembered a couple of times before when I had started
    the engine for a few seconds and then let it set overnite it did the same
    thing. I can't decide if the engine is sweating and getting moisture in it
    or if it is some kind of fuel issue? Any ideas?
    Thanks,
    Patrick
     
    cavetrekker, Dec 3, 2004
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  2. cavetrekker

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Patrick,

    It sounds like you may have the same trouble described in the 'Cranky
    Civic' post, above. Read the description in your owner's manual and
    you'll recognize the symptoms of engine flooding.

    Same cure. . . .

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Dec 3, 2004
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  3. I'm new to cold country (I came from Phoenix) but the locals warned me about
    a phenomenon that matches your experience. If the engine is started, run
    without warming up and shut off, the water vapor from combustion will
    condense on the plugs. In cold weather the water will freeze onto the plugs
    and the car won't start in the morning.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Dec 3, 2004
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  4. cavetrekker

    twfsa Guest

    If its white smoke its burning coolant(anti Freeze). Head gasket, or coolant
    is getting into the intake manifold.

    Is the coolant level where its supose to be?

    Tom
     
    twfsa, Dec 3, 2004
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  5. cavetrekker

    cavetrekker Guest

    The coolant stays the same, I haven't added any water or antifreeze in
    months. I'm thinking it's condensation since it only happens when you don't
    let the car warm up but I was also wondering if it could be unburnt fuel
    that the motor was too cold to cause to evaporate?
     
    cavetrekker, Dec 4, 2004
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  6. cavetrekker

    jim beam Guest

    do NOT rely on looking at the bottle. if there's an air leak, the level
    stays put and contraction just sucks in air, not fluid from the bottle
    like it's supposed to.
     
    jim beam, Dec 4, 2004
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  7. cavetrekker

    motsco_ _ Guest


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    Ours sputtered for about ten seconds, and blew a huge puff of smoke, but
    i can't say what color it was. Possibly black, which would make sense
    for a flooded engine.
    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Dec 4, 2004
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  8. cavetrekker

    jim beam Guest

    so the head gasket's gone before? without prior symptoms???? you're
    not telling the whole story...

    regarding your poor start problem, mike answered your question already.
     
    jim beam, Dec 4, 2004
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  9. cavetrekker

    cavetrekker Guest

    I checked it by taking the radiator cap off when the motor was cold and
    looking there first and it was full and the reservoir levels stays the same.
    If it was a head gasket I don't think it would have gone two years and
    30,000 miles since it did it the last time without other symptoms showing up
    Thanks,
    Patrick
     
    cavetrekker, Dec 4, 2004
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  10. cavetrekker

    cavetrekker Guest

    The car has had only routine maintenance done on it. Thats all nothing else
    has been done to it. After it runs for a few seconds when this happens it
    runs so smooth you can't see the motor vibrate. Like I said this only
    happens rarely and it always preceded by running the car for a few seconds
    and letting it set overnite. We know not to do this but sometimes we
    forget.
     
    cavetrekker, Dec 4, 2004
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