97 EX OBD Readiness

I am attempting to get my 97 Civic EX inspected at a NJ State Facility.
However, they cannot access my system (i.e. OBD Not Ready for all of
the sensors). My check engine light is NOT on. Following advice I have
done the following: driven the car more (100's of miles); let the car
warm up for 30 min before inspection; disconnected battery and drove
the car for another 100's of miles. Nothing has worked. Any advice
would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Frustrated Civic Owner

 

wrote in

Have you contacted your local dealer? There may be a TSB on this.

Sometimes reflashing the computer with later firmware will fix this.

More info:
http://www.autotap.com/articles/OBDII_and_Emissions_Testing.html

This link gives the correct drive sequence for setting ALL the flags that
you have. Your 30-minute drive may not be enough to set ALL the flags that
can be set, and disconnecting the battery may have been the *worst* thing
you could have done.

And:
http://www.gatewaycleanair.com/mechanic/air5_6/obdii.htm

An excerpt from the above:
"One of the EPA’s requirements for using a plug-in OBDII check in lieu of a
tailpipe test is to make sure the OBDII system is ready and has run its
system monitors. Some vehicles (mostly some import models) have readiness
issues when it comes to setting all the OBDII monitors. Consequently, the
EPA currently allows up to two readiness flags not to be set prior to
testing 1996 to 2000 model year vehicles."

Are they allowing you two "not-ready" flags?

 

I have contacted my local dealer; they were the ones who suggested
driving the car for 30 min. As far disconnecting the battery
(Inspection Agencie's suggestion), any problem that would have caused
"not-ready" issues had plenty of drive time to be displayed. I believe
NJ checks for three "not-ready" flags. On my car all three are
"not-ready". I read the Autotap link and it seems that I have tried
everything they suggest.

Still frustrated civic owner

 

wrote in

The dealership is incorrect.

Actually, no. See the PDF below.

Excerpt:
"WHAT CAUSES A "NOT-READY" REPORT?
Causes of a "not ready" report:
* Recent vehicle repairs in which diagnostic trouble codes have been
cleared with a OBDII scan tool; or,
* if the battery had been recently disconnected or replaced; or,
* if the vehicle's computer requires a software update; or,
* a pending problem has not yet illuminated the "check engine" light.

A generic drive cycle, from NY's DMV:
( http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/broch/c114.pdf )

"GENERIC DRIVE CYCLE
The purpose of the OBDII drive cycle is to run your vehicle's onboard
diagnostics. This, in turn, allows monitors to operate and detect potential
malfunctions of your vehicle's emission system.

"The correct drive cycle for your vehicle can vary greatly, depending on
the vehicle model and the monitors that need to be reset. When a specific
drive cycle is not known, or drive cycle information is not available from
an OWNER'S MANUAL, the generic cycle described below may assist with
resetting your vehicle's monitors.

"However, this generic cycle may not work for all vehicles. IMPORTANT: If
you choose to use the generic drive cycle below, you must obey all traffic
laws and drive in a safe manner.

"1. The OBDII drive cycle begins with a cold start (coolant temperature
below 122 degrees F and the coolant and air temperature sensors within 11
degrees of each other).
2. The ignition key must not be left on prior to the cold start - otherwise
the heated oxygen sensor diagnostic may not run.
* As soon as the engine starts, idle the engine in drive for two and one-
half minutes, with the air conditioning (A/C) and rear defrost turned on,
if equipped.
* Turn the A/C and rear defrost off, and accelerate to 55 mph under
moderate, constant acceleration. Hold at a steady speed of 55 mph for
three minutes.
* Decelerate (coast down) to 20 mph without braking (or depressing the
clutch for manual transmissions).
* Accelerate again back to 55 to 60 mph.
* Hold at a steady speed of 55 to 60 mph for five minutes. Decelerate
(coast down) to a stop without braking."

Other NYS information:
http://www.nydmv.state.ny.us/vehsafe.htm#einspect

 

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It is time to stop playing. You need to determine what readiness flags are
not set and find what is causing them not to be set. Any time you reset the
computer all readiness flags are reset and it can take several drive cycles
to set them. This means the car has to set until cold between drive cycles.
Pulling the battery resets the codes. Find a mechanic or dealer that can use
the tester and determine the problem. These aint the old days where you
could blindly throw parts at a problem to fix it....