98 Civic CX battery drain

Discussion in 'Civic' started by neosirex, Nov 28, 2004.

  1. neosirex

    neosirex Guest

    I've replaced both the alternator and battery on my car but for some reason
    when it runs i can see my headlights pulsing to a dim. It happened in stop
    and go traffic one night where it just killed all the electric in my car.
    I know it has something to do with the accident i had recently but i
    didn't think it was that major so i got some ODB scanner codes and was
    wondering if anyone knew if these had anything to do with the problem.

    p0501 speed sensor a (range/performace)

    p1298 Manufacturer control fuel air metering

    p0135 sensor heater circuit malfunction

    p0141 sensor heater circuit malfunction

    If anyone know how to fix these either the info would also be appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
    neosirex, Nov 28, 2004
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  2. neosirex

    SoCalMike Guest

    O2 heater circuit malfunctions. i has a 0135 on my 98 hatch, it was the
    oxygen sensor in the manifold. 0141 is likely the bottom one.

    i think theres a bigger problem tying all this together myself,
    personally. i dont think all your sensors are going haywire all at the
    same time, unless youve REALLY neglected the car, put really really bad
    gas in it, or something else major.

    id test the O2 sensors... if they test out ok, then it might be a bad
    computer?
     
    SoCalMike, Nov 29, 2004
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  3. neosirex

    dold Guest

    Were you hit pretty hard? Maybe the ground strap from the engine to the
    chassis broke loose.

    If the battery came loose from it's mounting, maybe it broke the cables
    internally. Maybe it pulled on the ground connection just enough to make
    the bolt loosen a bit.

    Loosen the ground cable from the battery and retighten it. Same with the
    engine to body strap.
     
    dold, Nov 29, 2004
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  4. neosirex

    neosirex Guest

    Well i sorta rear ended the person and it wasn't all that hard. Most
    everything was in place except the front part of the frame was bent inward
    a little. The other persons car didn't take any damage except scratches.
     
    neosirex, Nov 29, 2004
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  5. neosirex

    neosirex Guest

    any suggestions on how to test the O2 sensors? i really have no idea how i
    would do that.
     
    neosirex, Nov 29, 2004
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  6. neosirex

    Steve Guest

    Could be the ground strap or a ground in a wire off the cpu.. All the codes
    don't have much to do with each other.
    Steve
     
    Steve, Nov 30, 2004
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  7. neosirex

    SoCalMike Guest

    im guessing a bad wire somewhere, too. i rear ended a car in 99, no
    damage except a scrape to my bumper fascia.

    a few months later, my speedo died and the car was acting funny. i took
    it in and it was fixed under warranty. dealer said a wire was knocked
    loose and was chafing against something.

    i didnt attribute it to the accident, since no external damage was done
    and the problem didnt crop up until months later.

    but that would make more sense than all your sensors going bad at the
    same time.

    id have no idea where to begin even looking for the problem. i do know
    the O2 sensor wires loop around the engine, then under the intake manifold.

    id try to find where they all tie in together, and check for damage there.
     
    SoCalMike, Nov 30, 2004
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  8. The accident loosens, severs the charging unit's connection to the
    battery, pulsating the headlights. The headlights drains the battery to
    a low point then set off OBDII codes erroneously When the voltage
    goes under 7 the car stalls. The charging indicator didn't show up
    because the alternator still works but not supplying. You might want
    to trace between the battery and the alternator.
     
    Burt Squareman, Nov 30, 2004
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  9. neosirex

    neosirex Guest

    Hey i think i found out what's wrong with it. But i wanted to see what you
    all think. Well i took a look at the car again and found the O2 sensor on
    the front has the blackwire strippedish. The insulation around it is sorta
    gnarled off and part of the wire is shredded. That is unless that isn't an
    o2 sensor i'm looking at and the guy from autozone lied to me. Would that
    be the cause of a battery drain?
    here's a link to the picture
    Http://909confessions.com/o2.jpg
     
    neosirex, Dec 4, 2004
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  10. neosirex

    neosirex Guest

    Hey i think i found out what's wrong with it. But i wanted to see what you
    all think. Well i took a look at the car again and found the O2 sensor on
    the front has the blackwire strippedish. The insulation around it is sorta
    gnarled off and part of the wire is shredded. That is unless that isn't an
    o2 sensor i'm looking at and the guy from autozone lied to me. Would that
    be the cause of a battery drain?
    here's a link to the picture
    Http://909confessions.com/o2.jpg
     
    neosirex, Dec 4, 2004
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  11. neosirex

    SoCalMike Guest

    that is the upper O2 sensor, and IIRC, the black wire is a wire for the
    internal heater. it possibly could cause a drain... not sure. it could
    also trigger the P0135 code as well.

    worth fixing, and clearing the codes. if you still get a P0135, it might
    be worth replacing... if you STILL get a P0135 code after replacing,
    something else is messed up.

    id probably fix the wire, then test the (IIRC, not sure) bottom 2 wires
    wit an ohmmeter. should be a reading between 15 and 40, or something. my
    helm is in the garage and its 2am, so im not gettin it :)
     
    SoCalMike, Dec 4, 2004
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  12. neosirex

    neosirex Guest

    Hey i have a question for you guys, you think the car can run without the
    o2 sensor hooked up at all? cause i wanna test it to see if the battery
    drains after it's removed but i don't wanna do something that'd further
    damage my car.
     
    neosirex, Dec 5, 2004
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    SoCalMike Guest

    itll set a code, and likely run like crap and stall. if its running like
    crap and stalling, youll never get a good voltage reading and youll be
    restarting the car every time you come to a stop. which will drain the
    battery...
     
    SoCalMike, Dec 6, 2004
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  14. neosirex

    SoCalMike Guest


    hook the bottom 2 wires from the sensor part of the harness to an
    ohmmeter. if it reads ) the sensor is toast.
     
    SoCalMike, Dec 6, 2004
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