98 Civic - Get Trouble Codes out?

Discussion in 'Civic' started by Al, Feb 20, 2005.

  1. Al

    Al Guest

    I have a 98 Civic.

    How do I get the trouble codes?
     
    Al, Feb 20, 2005
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  2. All cars sold new in the US since January 1, 1996 conform to the OBD II
    standard. It requires a code reader be connected to the car to retrieve the
    codes. (I know - I think it is bad form to not make the information
    available to the driver, but the feds didn't ask for my opinion.) Some auto
    part chain stores will read the codes for free (call and find out) in hopes
    of selling repair parts. The readers are also available for sale, starting
    at about $160 US. I broke down and bought one when our Toyota had a "check
    engine" light a few months ago.

    Some side issues...
    1) The light is there to warn you the emission control system is not working
    right. Some of the codes are for things that also affect engine operation,
    but that isn't their primary reason for reporting. If the engine is running
    normally, the car is safe to drive in town and gently on the freeway. A few
    failures can make the mixture too rich and potentially damage the catalytic
    converter if you drive it hard. Otherwise, there is no problem continuing to
    drive.
    2) A common (and frustrating) reason for the light to come on is a loose gas
    cap. I know, you're probably thinking "I'd never leave the gas cap loose"
    but that was why our Toyota had the light on - I'd goofed when I filled it
    the day before. If that is the case, tighten the cap and drive it. The light
    should go out in a few days.
    3) If the code points to an emission-related device and you live in the USA,
    find out about whether your problem is covered under a mandatory federal
    emission extended warranty. If you are in California, I believe the emission
    warranty is extended farther.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 20, 2005
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  3. Al

    disallow Guest

    There has been some debate on the Honda forum as
    to whether post-96 hondas' codes can be read the
    way pre-96 OBDI cars were. I have not done it
    myself, but you can use a paperclip to jumper
    the 2 pin service connector by the ECU behind
    the passenger side kick panel. Then you turn
    the key to the 'ON' position (don't start it)
    and watch the Check Engine Light flash. Long
    flash = 10, short flash = 1. Then use the table
    (easily located on the internet or in the shop
    manual) to determine what the ECU thinks is
    wrong.

    As I said, I have not had to try this yet, but
    some people have had success with it,
    specifically on a 97 civic.

    t
     
    disallow, Feb 20, 2005
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  4. Al

    Al Guest

    Kick Panel? Under the glove box in front of the door?

    Pin 2 to Pin what?

    I think I have found the codes. Remarkably specific.
     
    Al, Feb 20, 2005
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  5. Al

    disallow Guest

    ya, the kick panel is below the glovebox.

    Try goin to the following links, the first one
    is a pic of the service connector, you just
    jumper it with a paper clip. The next one there
    is a video of someone checking the CEL on their
    civic.

    http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=682412&page=1

    www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr?i=wMzc4NjA5NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D

    Or try the following:

    http://tinyurl.com/5vxfg

    http://tinyurl.com/3jgr2

    t
     
    disallow, Feb 20, 2005
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  6. Al

    thompsonxx Guest

    YES!!

    As I have stated in one of the Honda NG's: I have owned a US 1997
    Civic LX sedan since new - purchased in Feb. 1997. I have jumpered the
    service connector a few times and have accurately read the codes using
    the method explained in this NG and used my Helm manual to reference
    the codes. I have successfully read an O2 sensor that went bad and had
    a CEL for "loose gas cap". Cap wasn't loose, the seal just wasn't good
    anymore. I think this was the last year the Civic would read this way.

    Jeff
     
    thompsonxx, Feb 21, 2005
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  7. Good to know! Do you know if the codes can be cleared by pulling a fuse,
    like in the old ones? (And I guess that means the OP is probably SOL with
    the '98)

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 21, 2005
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  8. Al

    disallow Guest

    I haven't tried on my sister's 99 civic yet, but
    why would they change this function in the
    middle of a generation?

    Not to say its impossible, but I think unlikely,
    as in my manual for 96-98s it shows how to
    jumper the service connector.

    Terry
    98 Civic LX
    215000kms
     
    disallow, Feb 22, 2005
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  9. Al

    E. Meyer Guest

    The codes can still be cleared by pulling a fuse in the '99-'00 TL, so its a
    good bet that it also works on the 98 Civic. Not knowing which fuse,
    disconnecting the battery for a while should have the same effect.
     
    E. Meyer, Feb 22, 2005
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  10. Al

    thompsonxx Guest

    On my 97 Civic, I disconnected the battery--I was cleaning the cable
    connections anyway. That did reset the CEL and cleared any codes.

    Jeff
     
    thompsonxx, Feb 22, 2005
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  11. Al

    disallow Guest

    under the hood in the fuse panel there is a
    7.5amp fuse labelled 'Backup'. Pull that for
    about a minute, and your computer is reset.

    Don't drop the fuse, its tiny... :)

    t
     
    disallow, Feb 22, 2005
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