98 civic starts running rough then CEL

Discussion in 'Civic' started by loewent via CarKB.com, Dec 2, 2007.

  1. 98 civic, 289000kms, 5spd, non-vtec.

    Driving home in some snow tonight, car started running rough, as though on 3
    cylinders.

    CEL started flashing. Code was P0302 at first. My code reader cleared it,
    then the flashing CEL came back. Read P0300, P0301, P0303, P0304. No other
    codes.

    I recently replaced the cap, rotor and sparkplugs (all from dealership). I
    am using Bosch plug wires (I know, but they have a lifetime warranty
    apparently), so I replaced the wires with new bosch wires (warranty as
    mentioned).

    While changing the wires, I decided to check the condition of the sparkplugs.
    They all looked fantastic, but I did notice that they were all pretty loose!
    Not falling out loose, but not tight.

    Tightened them down, seated the plug wires, and all seems OK now. I also
    reset the computer as the idle was a little low after completing the work.

    My question is: Did I solve my problem here, or is this a sporadic problem
    perhaps with the ingitor? Anyone else out there have this issue before?

    t
     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Dec 2, 2007
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    motsco_ Guest

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    Somebody peed in your gas tank ? Seriously, you may need to replace or
    at least back flush your fuel filter and maybe add some methyl hydrate.
    Was it COLD where you were? Fuel line icing sounds like that too.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Dec 2, 2007
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    Jeff Guest


    If there is ethanol in the gasoline, there is no need to add fuel line
    deicer. The ethanol will remove any water in the tank.

    Instead of adding methanol (grain alcohol, methyl hydrate), I would use
    iso-propanol-based dry gas. It is better for the fuel lines and other
    rubber parts and more effective, because it dissolves in gasoline better.

    Jeff
     
    Jeff, Dec 2, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    There is a known issue with the CR-V for exactly this problem. The CR-V has
    basically the same engine as the Civic.

    The CR-V's problem is exhaust valve(s) that have receded into their seats.

    Check your valve clearances.

    If possible, also do a cylinder leakdown test to check for burnt valves.
     
    Tegger, Dec 2, 2007
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  5. in winnipeg, so it was -14C.

    Most fuel here is 10% ethanol.

    As mentioned, the problem seems to have cleared itself. Just wanna make sure
    its not something else that is sporadic.

    t

     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Dec 2, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    crv is b-series - most civics are d-series [apart from the si].

    more likely the valve itself is getting hot enough to cup around the
    seat - that's fairly common on other cars. valve seats on hondas are
    high quality and in a highly conductive aluminum head - they rarely get
    hot enough to actually recede.

    technically, leakdown is for rings. simple compression is for leaking
    valves. and if they are, got to take the head off to replace.
     
    jim beam, Dec 3, 2007
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  7. leakdown works well for valves as well, you only have to listen where the air
    is leaking (air intake or exhaust system) to detect your problem at TDC.
    Doesn't tell you what cylinder though.

    Now that the plugs are tightened up and I got new wires on it, it seems to be
    running like a top.

    Thanks for the ideas all!

    t

     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Dec 3, 2007
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    Tegger Guest



    Oops. I was thinking of the Integra.
     
    Tegger, Dec 3, 2007
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