'99 Accord V6 hesitation 1500-2000 rpm

Discussion in 'Accord' started by James, Jul 20, 2004.

  1. James

    James Guest

    My 99 Accord V6 (90 k miles) has been hesitating/stumbling under very
    light throttle load around the 1500 to 2000 rpm range.

    I reported here earlier that a Honda (dealer) Service Manager who
    drove the car was fairly certain that it was an EGR problem. Google
    searches confirmed that this was a likely cause. I gave the car to a
    Honda tech for a few days. He agreed that it was likely the EGR, but
    upon removing the intake manifold he discovered that the port was
    fairly clean. He thoroughly cleaned it out and tested the EGR valve
    (which was fine), but the problem did not go away. He also told me
    that my car was up to date with the most recent EGR TSB (I had it done
    in December 2002).

    Additionally, all 90 and 105k maintenance items have been perfored
    (after the problem started), including all fluids being replaced,
    timing belt/water pump, distributor cap, rotor, wireset, plugs, and
    air filter, and probably a few other things I am forgetting. The air
    intake is free of obstructions, and the throttle body has been
    cleaned. The timing is and was correct. I have also burned through
    about 5 tanks of gas since I noticed the problem.

    A fuel delivery problem doesn't seem very likely to me since other RPM
    ranges, or a heavier right foot make the problem go away, but I could
    certainly be wrong.

    Any guesses as to what the problem could be? Could it be a fuel
    delivery issue? Another bad transmission?
     
    James, Jul 20, 2004
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  2. James

    SoCalMike Guest

    id quadruple check all vac hoses, unplug all wiring going to the fuel
    system parts and clean with electronic contact cleaner, tighten all the
    nuts on the manifold and throttle body, then replace the fuel filter.

    if that *still* doesnt do it, id start the engine and spray carb cleaner
    around any places where 2 intake parts meet. if theres a bad gasket
    somewhere, the carb cleaner should get sucked in and cause the idle to
    change.
     
    SoCalMike, Jul 21, 2004
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  3. James

    M.Paul Guest

    Sounds alot like the same problem I had with my 99 V6 - the torque converter
    problem. It took several trips to the dealer - complaining about the
    problem (they kept telling me it was normal) before they replaced the
    transmission under warranty which fixed the problem. There WERE two TSBs
    describing the problem but they are mysteriously no longer on the alldata
    site.
     
    M.Paul, Jul 21, 2004
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  4. James

    James Guest

    Funny, but the torque convertor was my first suspicion. Initially,
    the hesitation was only noticable when the trans was in 4th. If I
    left it in D3, the hesitation was not present - or at least so subtle
    I didn't notice it. In my paranoia, I took the car to the Honda
    dealer that did my most recent trans replacement. (a justified
    paranoia as this is my 3rd trans and I had about 100 miles left on the
    12k mile trans warranty - how nice of Honda to trust their
    transmissions for 36k, but their remanufactured junk for only for 12).

    Anyway, after fighting with the service advisor who had been to "Honda
    Transmission School" and claimed what I was describing was just torque
    convertor lockup (which I know it isn't since I've driven all but a
    few of the 90k miles on the car), explaining 2nd grade math to him
    (since he insisted the trans was out of warranty), and leaving the car
    for their "transmission expert", I was told that the transmission was
    fine.

    Now, about 2000 miles later, the hesitation, slipping, misfiring, or
    whatever it is, is still subtle, but present at an increasing RPM
    range, and certainly 3rd gear as well as 4th. Does this seem to jive
    with what you experienced?

    Thanks for the input!

    -James
     
    James, Jul 22, 2004
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  5. James

    James Guest

    I will double check all of the nuts and hoses (they should be OK, but
    it won't hurt to check again). Cleaning the contacts makes sense, and
    hopefully the fuel filter won't be all that bad.
    Sounds like a plan - any danger of carb cleaner doing anything nasty
    to the plastic or rubbery bits around the intake?

    Thanks for the advice!

    -James
     
    James, Jul 22, 2004
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