__Canadian Tire couldn't diagnose a flat tire on a sunny day.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by motsco_, Jan 3, 2007.

  1. motsco_

    motsco_ Guest

    Canadian Tire couldn't diagnose a flat tire on a sunny day.

    Don't let them fix your Honda, Acura, Dodge, Ford, etc.

    Anybody else feel this way?

    _I'm scared to even buy TIRES from them_ . . . I think they would screw
    something up :-(

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Jan 3, 2007
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  2. motsco_

    AZ Nomad Guest

    Then don't. Do they have no competition in your locale?
     
    AZ Nomad, Jan 3, 2007
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  3. I hear ya Curly. I NEVER recommend anyone take their car to CT.

    I have made this mistake, unfortunately more than once.... :( I had an old
    1985 200sx. It was such a fun car.... had been rebuilt by the previous owner.
    I guess he must have overtorqued the bolts holding the water pump onto the
    engine, as one of these bolts snapped.

    These were the days before I knew anything about cars.... I had already
    replaced the rad as it looked suspect, but it didn't eliminate the leak. I
    would be driving along, and all of the sudden all of my coolant would leak
    out. Took it to CanTire as they were the only place I really knew of at the
    time.

    The bill ended up being over $1000 to replace a freakin bolt. Looking back,
    knowing what I know now, I could have done the same repair for about $10-20.

    Plus they buggered the timing when they put it back together....

    Later, I softened and decided it was OK for them to change the oil in the
    same car. Got it back and it was overfilled by over a liter.

    Won't be going back there. Granted that some of the bad experience was
    exacerbated by the fact that I knew nothing about cars at the time, but now I
    won't even let them check my tire pressure.

    t
     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Jan 3, 2007
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  4. motsco_

    motsco_ Guest

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    You missed the intent of my question.. I'm mentioning this as a Public
    Service Announcement, for the poor souls that might wander in, assuming
    that they've found the 'EXPERTS'.
    A newsgroup search will confirm that many other Canadians wish somebody
    had warned them . . .

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Jan 3, 2007
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  5. motsco_

    jbxnyr Guest

    I usually have nothing good to say about ANY car repair place but my
    one experience with Canadian Tire was very positive!!

    I was in Toronto at a weekend family gathering when my daughter's Civic
    began misfiring badly. (And this was AFTER she spent $400 in NYC on a
    tuneup at a Honda dealership the week before to supposedly fix the
    problem.) She had to drive back to NYC Sunday to return to work on
    Monday. I normally do ALL of my own work but I had no tools and no
    choice but to take it to CT...the only place open on Sundays.

    I was in the shop and watched the mechanic work. He was extremely
    thorough and tracked it down to a bad MAP sensor. He couldn't get the
    part before closing and we discussed options. We rigged a temporary
    fix and she got back to NYC safe and sound. All for $80.

    This guy may be the exception, not the rule, but I was extremely
    satisfied.

    --Jeff
     
    jbxnyr, Jan 4, 2007
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  6. motsco_

    Stephen H Guest


    Its all a crap shoot. What Tech is working; what are his skills- does he
    have any. There are times when a customer ask questions on what to do or
    how to do it and I have no clue and others where the knowledge is right
    there in my head. The "Lead" tech at my last shop (25+ years exp)couldn't
    do diag worth sh*t; he would throw parts at it; I would do my best and try
    to logic out the problem. At my current shop one of the main tech can't use
    a wire diagram well- but can rip a subie trans apart.
    Finding a leak in a tire is the same. Sometimes we get a tire repeatedly in
    for a persistent leak- I would rather find it and fix it-- it's always
    easier that way; but some leaks wont leak for you. Sometimes you have to put
    90 psi in it, others dismount it and inspect. Sometimes you put a new
    valvestem in and hope for the best.

    We are just people with different levels of knowledge- experience and
    abilities. roll the dice.



    --
    Stephen W. Hansen
    ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
    ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
    ASE Undercar Specialist
    Currently working at a Subaru Dealership

    http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm
    http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
    http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm
     
    Stephen H, Jan 5, 2007
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  7. motsco_

    Tegger Guest


    <snip>



    The problem with Canadian Tire is they tend to get the same people as Sears
    and Firestone.
     
    Tegger, Jan 5, 2007
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  8. motsco_

    Stephen H Guest


    True- Put Goodyear, Midas in that phrase too.
    Firestone gave me a start- Just out of the military; 20 years on jets and
    such; shadetree mech in my spare time. Firestone was hell- I had some good
    times and met some great people, and I learned. I did some good work there
    .... and some stuff, well I learned from. Nobody can come from a auto tech
    school and know everything, doing the job is the best source for learning. I
    am amazed at the dealership I work for; for the knowledge of how "Other"
    cars work is slim for most of them; if it's not a Subie they won't touch it.
    Oh today I got taught "Subie auto transmission 101" it was a good day (but
    no money)
    Anyway I will never go back to Firestone; though I will always have there
    tires on my cars (mostly).

    Steve
     
    Stephen H, Jan 6, 2007
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  9. motsco_

    Matt Ion Guest

    The problem with most large chains like this is simply that they have trouble
    KEEPING the good techs around. Internal politics, excessive paperwork, inane
    procedures thought up by bean counters... muck and more muck that just
    constantly drives away (no pun intended) the better minds and favors the
    mediocre. Individual mechanics' specialties aren't used appropriately or even
    recognized - like the example of the guy who could rebuild a tranny blindfolded
    but couldn't read a wiring schematic to save his life: in some chain shops he'd
    just be tossed at whatever job was up next when he was available, regardless of
    whether he was the best one for that job.

    Environments like this don't encourage creative problem solving, they just want
    you to get the cars in and out quickly, while selling the customer as many parts
    as you can get away with. (Not to sound TOO cynical, of course, because many of
    the stores also have excellent LOCAL management, but they're still accountable
    to someone higher up who only sees the balance sheet, and you end up with the
    same mediocrity there as well).

    Those with the real skills end up working for smaller shops where their
    abilities are appreciated, or even open their own shops. If you're lucky, you
    catch the Big Chain Shops when they have an up-and-coming prodigy, before he too
    gets sick of the BS and leaves for greener pastures.

    Sadly, this is true of most technical vocations: when I was doing IT support for
    a small digital-arts school, I worked for a manager who recognized my particular
    skills and knowledge and used them appropriately, and as such I always found
    work interesting and challenging. As the company grew and the bean-counters
    started having more say, that manager was turfed and his job taken over by the
    guy above him (two jobs for the price of one manager!), who constantly told me
    what a great tech he thought I was, yet left me doing the same pissant flunky
    jobs for three years.

    The school getting bought out by a big international corporation (the people who
    own all those Art Institute schools) was pretty much the end, when the
    bean-counters finally took over completely: the whole tech department was cut
    back, support hours slashed, and being the guy who did the evening and weekend
    shifts (by choice), I was one of the first to go. Which was fine with me, as I
    was about that close to telling them to go **** their collective hat anyway.

    I ended up working for a small company (just the owner and his wife), where my
    skills are recognized and appreciated and properly utilized. My boss is
    relaxed, largely the same personality as me so we get along great, and he's not
    afraid to throw me at jobs that sometimes I'm not even sure I can handle (I have
    yet to disappoint). Two of our competitors have tried several times to hire me
    away, but they're both larger companies with the same kind of strict rules and
    procedures and bean-counterish ideas - I'd have to be at the office at 7:30
    every day, despite it being an hour commute from home and not even necessarily
    in the same direction as the job, I'd have tons of paperwork to deal with...
    they couldn't pay me enough (well, they could, but I don't think they'd really
    want to GIVE me that much!)

    Anyway, to wander back on track: the best mechanic I ever found was another
    small operation, young guy who loved working on cars, and his wife running the
    office. They did some great work on our vehicles, the guy was brilliant, and
    their prices were good. We sent all our friends there, and they all agreed.
    Then one day the shop was gone, and we never found out exactly why (I'd heard
    they had a kid and he had to stop working such long hours). I don't know if
    he'd ever been through the who big-chain muddle, but I wouldn't have blamed him
    if he had and didn't last there.
     
    Matt Ion, Jan 6, 2007
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    Stephen H Guest

    AMEN!
     
    Stephen H, Jan 7, 2007
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