A/C and starting

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dillon Pyron, Aug 24, 2009.

  1. Dillon Pyron

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Does the compressor put much of a load on the engine at startup?
    Lately I've taken to turning the A/C off after I shutdown the engine
    and giving it a couple of seconds of run time before I turn the A/C
    back on. Am I being silly? If it only saves a couple of percent, yes
    I am.
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    - dillon I am not invalid

    "Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
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    - former B52 wing commander
     
    Dillon Pyron, Aug 24, 2009
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    Tegger Guest



    The compressor clutch will not engage until the engine is running, so the
    position of the A/C switch makes no difference on startup.

    You're better to turn the A/C off a couple of miles from home, not right at
    shutoff. Allowing the evaporator a few minutes to come to ambient
    temperature (with the blower fan remaining on) will help dry up the
    condensation that eventually leads to that "stinky socks" smell.
     
    Tegger, Aug 25, 2009
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    bucky3 Guest

    I go beyond that. I usually don't turn on AC until the engine has
    warmed up (at least a minute).
     
    bucky3, Aug 25, 2009
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    E. Meyer Guest

    Most cars don't energize the compressor until the key is back in the "run"
    position after starting. Now if your engine is flaky & doesn't start up
    smoothly, it might have a hard time with the extra load hitting it shortly
    after starting, but there is no extra load while starting.
     
    E. Meyer, Aug 25, 2009
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  5. Dillon Pyron

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Thanks. More for the stinky socks advice. I HATE that with a
    passion.

    And if you have a turbo, make sure it idles for at least 30 seconds,
    unless you have some sort of additional pressure oiling system.
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    - dillon I am not invalid

    "Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
    I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

    - former B52 wing commander
     
    Dillon Pyron, Aug 30, 2009
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    jim beam Guest

    pressure isn't the issue with a turbo, it's "heat soak". heat from the
    turbine conducts back to the shaft and the bearings after it's switched
    off and cooks the oil in it. allowing the turbine to cool by idling
    [some trucks used to spec three minutes] before switch off mitigates
    this. using an oil that can take the heat [synthetics] is strongly
    recommended.
     
    jim beam, Aug 30, 2009
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  7. Dillon Pyron

    Tegger Guest


    I think what Dillon means is the sort of system that maintains oil flow
    through the turbo for X-minutes after engine shutdown. Such a system is
    meant to prevent the oil in the turbo from being heated to the point of
    coking.
     
    Tegger, Aug 30, 2009
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  8. Dillon Pyron

    Dillon Pyron Guest

    Yeah. Since I don't race "tin tops" any more, I can't remember the
    name of the system that did that. It would store up about a litre of
    oil in a little resivor and then use either air pressure (via a
    piston) or an electric pump to push the oil into the system. They
    also had one that primed the system at startup.

    With three pump dry sump systems, I don't worry about that, much.
    --

    - dillon I am not invalid

    "Iran wants nukes? North Korea wants nukes?
    I'm sure we can give them some. Or the Navy."

    - former B52 wing commander
     
    Dillon Pyron, Sep 1, 2009
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