hi. On a Prelude 3rd generation, the AC is out of order, 2 possibilities: -compressor -clutch of compressor Here ( Marseilles south of FRANCE) impossible to find a remanufactured products, so we have to put new spare part ... price ... scaring. Have you any adress in Europe (or USA..) for those pieces, is it: -sure? - possible to get the clutch also? -affordable? -possible to find an adaptation one... Many thanks. Philippe for responding please drop -discret- in my adress
Philippe, Compressors are not cheap. I replaced one the other year in my Gen 3 Prelude Si. You might inquire at http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com I don't know if they ship overseas. Price could be prohibitive on top of the $300 US compressor price. Clutch can be purchased separately for $109 for 1990. Cheers, Mike Davis
Hi Michael, Thantks for this issue, Mine is a 2.0 i 4 ws. (1991) Do you know if there is significative differences betwen; years, models, country....?? Many thanks Philippe
What is the symptom? Are you sure it's not just low refrigerant or a relay problem? For a good A/C forum try www.aircondition.com - search first before asking question. For the U.S. there's www.thepartsbin.com - dunno how good they are or what shipping costs will come to but they claim to ship international. In the U.K. there's http://www.nipponautomotive.co.uk/ - no A/C listed but might be worth a 'phone call. If you want to replace just the clutch you'd have to get the exact clutch for the make and model of compressor - could get tricky. Are you going to be able to get R-12 in Europe?... at a reasonable cost? I'm sure the EU regs are not favorable.:-( You might want to consider a retrofit with a complete new compressor suited to R-134a. What you save on R-12, now and in future, could contribute significantly to the cost of the compressor. As for brands of compressor, if it fits your Prelude mechanically, it should work with the A/C system OK - maybe slightly different refrigerant charge and possibly different diameter pulley/belt. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
When you start the AC the light turns to green, no noise of compressor, no reaction on engine rotation... Yes the level of gas is Ok, the relay as been chechk too... Ok :-/ ... In fact in Europe after some years with a lake of solution - Only to retrofit on R 134a... expensive.. very - Rhone Poulenc Rhodia has manufactured a new gas called Isceon 49 it is a R 413 A http://www.isceon-refrigerants.co.uk/downloads/Isceon49/aircon49.pdf You can permute from R 12 to R 413 WITHOUT any other change... Just need to empty the R 12 & fill with R 413.. Apologise for my English.... school is so far... ;-)) regards Philippe
So you've checked the refrigerant charge with a gauge set? Is voltage getting to the clutch coil? Have you checked the clutch clearance gap - ~0.5mm? Have you checked the high/low pressure cut-off switch? Can the compressor be turned by hand? You can get a workshop manual download at http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/serviceManuals.html - even if not for your particular model, you should be able to find a near equivalent. The thing is the R-134a is inexpensive compared with some other refrigerants. Can you buy R413 without a license? We can't in the U.S. though we can still buy R134a at an auto parts store. Here's a useful page on alternative refrigerants: http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrigerants/macssubs.html. The R413 must be a zeotropic mixture... most of which seem to work well but there is a catch: if they ever leak, and every A/C system does leak, even if only very slightly, you get fractionation of the mixture of gases, so you cannot top the charge up by just adding the same refrigerant - you have to purge and recharge. This is one of the reasons that A/C shops do not want to deal with them - they cannot recover them for re-use. Rgds, George Macdonald "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
i didn't myself, the specialist did.. No idea.. We can't in the U.S. though we can intersting issue... but in fact you don't add gas often,, so the risk is quite minimized, no ? regards.
