Accord 1999 - battery "tested" 209 CCA, "Replace!"? Why?

Discussion in 'Accord' started by bwooster47, Mar 6, 2007.

  1. bwooster47

    bwooster47 Guest

    At a local oil change shop, my 8 year old car, on original battery,
    that has not had any problems starting this winter in below 0F temps,
    was tested, and a report shown to me - 209CCA, was 550CCA originally,
    and must replace battery.

    Is there any surefire way to determine whether to replace a battery?
    Never had a problem starting the car in cold days (-5F), on hot days
    (110F).
    Does crank slowly on cold mornings, but starts up on first try anyway.

    I know many people get scared with batteries over 5 years old, but is
    there any objective method to say a battery needs replacement, or is
    this "how lucky do you feel" analysis????
     
    bwooster47, Mar 6, 2007
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    Joe LaVigne Guest

    Batteries are cheap enough that it makes sense to change it before it
    fails. It is much better to drop $100 or less now, than to miss a day of
    work because your car wouldn't start and you had to get a ride to the
    local autoparts store to get a new battery, then futz with it in the
    freezing cold.

    There are far more reasonable things to cheap out on...
     
    Joe LaVigne, Mar 6, 2007
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  3. bwooster47

    Tegger Guest


    Why was the battery tested?
     
    Tegger, Mar 7, 2007
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    Randolph Guest

    At 8 years I wouldn't even think twice about it. Just replace it. An
    older battery in less than prime condition can put extra strain on the
    alternator, causing it to fail prematurely.
     
    Randolph, Mar 7, 2007
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  5. Well... I would have a slight suspicion on why an "oil change" joint
    tested an electrical component, i.e., the battery but OTOH, eight years
    is a stretch for any battery..

    JT
     
    Grumpy AuContraire, Mar 7, 2007
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    nm5k Guest


    Myself, I usually wait until the first "no start" situation...Then I
    chunk it..
    I can tell when they are going south. But if reliability is a
    concern,
    you might as well change it out. 8 years is getting pretty old as far
    as
    batteries go. Did they check the individual cells to see if any show
    bad, shorted, etc? It's your call really. It might last another year,
    but
    then again, if you had an extended crank session some day, it could
    leave you needing a jump. A low battery voltage can add extra strain
    to the starter too..
    MK
     
    nm5k, Mar 8, 2007
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    Andy & Carol Guest

    The battery should have been replaced 4 yrs ago.
    It a wonder you haven't cooked that expensive
    alternator for making it work so hard. Batteries are
    cheap..but not being stranded some rainy ,cold night,
    getting help, the battery is probably sulfated. But some folks
    are lucky...


    > wrote in message
    news:...
     
    Andy & Carol, Mar 8, 2007
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  8. I'm not convinced that an aging battery puts unusual stress on the
    alternator. I would be interested in hearing from an electrical
    engineer with specific knowledge on this. A couple tests come to
    mind: 1. Measure the battery voltage after it has sat overnight. If
    it is at least 11.0 - 11.5v it isn't going to accept much charge and
    shouldn't stress the alternator. 2. After a long drive, feel the
    battery. If it is not much warmer than its inert surroundings, then
    it can't be absorbing much energy.

    I am pretty cheap and I would consider keeping the battery until late
    fall. Summer heat is hard on batteries but you don't demand much
    cranking power from them. So, the battery is likely to serve you
    through the summer but would be pretty shaky for next winter. So look
    for a good sale in September and buy a fresh battery then. Keep in
    mind that I am not that concerned about battery reliability,
    especially in the summer.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Mar 8, 2007
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  9. bwooster47

    Tegger Guest




    Here ya go.
    http://www.uuhome.de/william.darden/carfaq5.htm
     
    Tegger, Mar 9, 2007
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    Andy & Carol Guest

    Take it to a place that has a carbon pile>analog meter and forget about the
    digital stuff.
    You will actually see the meter drop under load...I don't need to convince
    anybody
    that is to cheap to replace an 8 yr. old battery!

    31100-PAA-A01RM W-ALTERNATOR ASSY- 1 1999 Accord 335.05

    That enough to convince me!
     
    Andy & Carol, Mar 9, 2007
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    nm5k Guest

    I tend to agree. Only in the case of a huge current draw by some
    device like a monster stereo, radio transmitter, etc might this be an
    issue.
    And then only because it will quickly tap out a battery, and the
    alternator works hard trying to keep it charged. In most normal
    cases with a minimal current draw, it won't be an issue.
    I see low voltage as being harder on the starter motor, than
    the alternator. And even a half shot battery will not keep a low
    voltage long, once started. It will quickly charge to normal
    voltage. In other words, it still acts as normal, except as far
    as capacity.
    MK
     
    nm5k, Mar 9, 2007
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  12. I don't see anything here that addresses the question of stress on the
    alternator due to an aging battery.
     
    Gordon McGrew, Mar 9, 2007
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