Accord 2003 Brake Vibration Problem No Dealer can fix!

Discussion in 'Accord' started by glucom, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. glucom

    glucom Guest

    I would like to know if anyone saw this brake problem before. I have a
    Honda Accord 2003 and I changed disks & pads last years (OEM). I had
    to change them again a month ago, and changed the two disks again last
    week but this time they also change the oil brake. The problem is
    always the same. At low speed or braking firmely at high speed,
    everyting is fine when the brakes & Pads are new. But between 50 to 65
    miles per hours when slightly braking, a vibration that even the
    passenger can fell appear. It's always the same story, when the brake
    are new, it vibrate only at that speed and 6 months later it will
    vibrate also at low speed and a lot at hight speed. All the dealer are
    saying that the caliper are fine. Could it still be the caliber?
    Something else?

    This thursday I will change the two calipers even if everybody is
    saying they are fine. If it doesn't fix the problem, the car is for
    sale next week and I'm going back to Toyota!

    Thank you in advance for your help

    Luc
     
    glucom, Aug 14, 2007
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  2. glucom

    npolite Guest

    When you are getting your brakes done, are they also being resurfaced?
    Your rotors should never be resurfaced as the process removes material
    from the rotors and will bring you back to the issue again in the
    future.

    If you are getting the pulsing problem even after you replaced the
    rotors, then I would suspect that you are overheating your rotors by
    the way you drive which in turn is causing the rotors to warp. You
    will probably need to get rotors that can handle the harsh conditions
    that your are exerting on to them. I'm not sure of which brands are
    good but you will probably need to get slotted rotors. From what it
    sounds like the issue has nothing to do with your calipers so don't
    waste any money on replacing them.

    Nick
     
    npolite, Aug 15, 2007
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  3. glucom

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in @r34g2000hsd.googlegroups.com:

    Have your garage read this:
    http://www.babcox.com/editorial/bf/bf100326.htm

    It's the very best brake vibration reference I've found yet.
     
    Tegger, Aug 15, 2007
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  4. glucom

    jim beam Guest

    your wheel monkeys are using air tools when fastening the wheels. smear
    a very little antiseize onto the hub face and torque the lug nuts with a
    torque wrench in a 2 or more stage process, 1324, 1324. may not work
    with the old disks if they've been too messed about, but the symptoms
    you describe are classic.
     
    jim beam, Aug 15, 2007
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  5. glucom

    Dick Guest

    Of course we don't know how Luc drives, but I suspect you are right.
    My 2003 Accord has over 60,000 miles and the pads currently measure
    6mm front and 3mm rear (1.6mm is minimum.) Still have a way to go
    before replacement, and absolutely no pulsations (original brakes and
    tires.) I am continually amazed at how people drive these days. They
    fly by me over the speed limit, then slam on the brakes just before
    they get to the stop light. Many people don't realize that you should
    attempt to drive without ever using the brakes. Of course that is
    impossible, but every bit of horsepower that is burned off with the
    brakes has to be made up by the engine thereby using more gasoline.
    Took me a long time to understand that. And of course too much use of
    the brakes overheats the rotors.

    Dick
     
    Dick, Aug 15, 2007
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  6. glucom

    Dick Guest

    Jeep Grand Cherokees seem to be particularly susceptible to this.
    Whenever I have our Jeep's wheels changed, I stand right there and
    make sure they finish with a hand torque wrench.

    Dick
     
    Dick, Aug 15, 2007
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  7. glucom

    E Meyer Guest

    When my '00 TL did this, the problem turned out to be caused by a bad upper
    ball joint. The symptom was very similar to a sticking caliper with the
    left front wheel being noticeably hotter to the touch compared to the other
    side after a few highway miles. If the likely brake system fixes don't
    correct the problem, get the whole front suspension checked out.
     
    E Meyer, Aug 15, 2007
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