Accord 2004 EX. Are the steering wheel control switches illuminated ?????

Discussion in 'Accord' started by mbaybut, Apr 28, 2004.

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    mbaybut Guest

    Seems weird that Honda would not illuminate the controls on the
    steering wheel but I don't seem to have it. Can anybody confirm this.
    TIA,
    Mike
     
    mbaybut, Apr 28, 2004
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  2. They are not, and others have complained about it. It bothered me at first,
    but I got used to it. Now I've realized: you're not supposed to look at those
    switches when you use them, and they all feel different, so they don't really
    need to be illuminated. Once you get used to it, I'm sure it wont matter
    to you either.
     
    Joshua J. Belsky, Apr 28, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    Dark as can be. They really cheeped out on this.

    John
     
    John Horner, Apr 28, 2004
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    Seth Guest

    I prefer them unlit.
     
    Seth, Apr 28, 2004
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  5. I just realized that the main problem with unlit controls is that the legends
    wear off because they are just painted on. The lit ones are molded into the
    plastic, so they last forever. Or maybe I'm wrong. Perhaps honda molds the
    unlit legends into the buttons as well. Anyone know?
     
    Joshua J. Belsky, Apr 28, 2004
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    Adrian Idzik Guest

    It really doesn't matter, as cruise control buttons are seldom used. There's
    just too much congestion on our highway these
    days that it's not that practical anymore. Only good for long trips when
    your foot starts to hurt :)

    Also IMO, too many things illuminated causes a distraction when driving at
    night.
     
    Adrian Idzik, Apr 28, 2004
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    Matthew Hunt Guest

    On my del Sol, the cruise control buttons on the wheel, which are unlit,
    remain in excellent shape after 10 years and 149,000 miles. The legends
    are not molded.

    The lighted dashboard buttons, like the hazard light switch, do not look
    as good. I think there's a clear layer in front, with a "mask" behind it
    for the light to shine through. The layers are separating, or something's
    turning cloudy, or something... they just don't look that great anymore.

    I'm sure that both lighted and non-lighted switches could be made durable,
    but that's not always the case.

    As far as my preferences, the less lighting in a car I own, the better.
    In a rental car or a borrowed car, lights may be helpful, but in my
    own car, I know where everything is by touch, and don't want the
    distraction.
     
    Matthew Hunt, Apr 28, 2004
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  8. Agreed. But, especially since my Accord has an XM radio, the radio controls
    get used a lot.
    Also agreed. I think that some of Saab's models have a switch that turns off
    the lighting on everything but the speedometer.

    -Josh
     
    Joshua J. Belsky, Apr 28, 2004
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    Paul Stuart Guest

    Seems weird that Honda would not illuminate the controls on the
    One of the changes for 2005 Accords is that the steering-wheel audio and
    cruise controls will be illuminated with the parking/headlights.

    Paul
     
    Paul Stuart, Apr 28, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    One of the changes for 2005 Accords is that the steering-wheel audio and
    Will all of the usenet defenders of unlit controls now rise up in anger ?

    :) John
     
    John Horner, Apr 29, 2004
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  11. Please sir - me!:) I do not want a carnival show for a dashboard nor a
    steering wheel imitating a Christmas tree.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Apr 29, 2004
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  12. Well, let's see. On my dash, not counting the horn and the two voice control
    buttons, there are nine buttons. That's a lot of lights!
     
    Joshua J. Belsky, Apr 30, 2004
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    Milleron Guest

    This is a fairly common statement on these fora, so I have to throw in
    my 2 cents worth. I very strongly disagree. I have had automobiles
    with illuminated steering-wheel controls for years and nothing could
    be further from the truth than stating that they are distracting at
    night. I'm sorry, but that's just hogwash. They are no more
    distracting than any other illuminated control in the car -- in other
    words, not distracting at all.
    And I NEVER get used to this, especially in the winter when wearing
    gloves. The embossing on the controls cannot be felt through any but
    the flimsiest of gloves. Even when not wearing gloves, it usually
    requires a quick glance to move your hands from the usual 10-and-2
    driving position to those controls, and in the black of night when
    those controls are practically invisible, that requires taking my eyes
    off the road for TOO LONG. The opposite from being distracting,
    keeping these controls invisible is a significant safety issue. Any
    distraction comes in searching for them in the dark.
    Honda's failure to go along with most other manufacturers and
    illuminate these controls is just plain stupid. I wish there were a
    way to make them hear what I feel is a big majority of owners who
    believe this is a foolish omission.



    Ron
     
    Milleron, Apr 30, 2004
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    Milleron Guest

    I think this shows that the MAJORITY has finally spoken.

    Ron
     
    Milleron, Apr 30, 2004
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    Matthew Hunt Guest

    Wow, that's amazing. How do you know what distracts me? I see people
    driving around with leis hanging from their mirrors. I'm sure they'd
    say it's not distracting. I drove such a car one, and had to tear the
    damned thing down within minutes.
    To you. I want as little lit up as possible.
    Oh good, it's my turn. How does it go? "Hogwash!" After all, I'm
    able to get used to them, so you must be able to, too.
    It should not require glancing. It should not require feeling. The
    buttons can be located by position, without looking down. I do it all
    the time. With my amazing superpowers, I can even shift gears without
    looking down and to the right!
    Well, gee, of course Honda should base its engineering on your
    *feeling*. I don't suppose it occured to you that people who *like*
    the dark controls don't spend all their time talking about them on
    Usenet?
     
    Matthew Hunt, May 1, 2004
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  16. The whole idea of wheel mounted controls is not having to take your
    eyes off the road.
     
    Oliver Costich, May 6, 2004
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    John Horner Guest

    BS excuse. Why are Acura controls lighted and why is Honda said to be
    lighting the Accord controls for 2005?

    John
     
    John Horner, May 8, 2004
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    SAC 441 Guest

    I know that Civic steering wheel controls are slightly different than
    Accord models; with respect to my unlit (mostly cruise controls)
    controls the placement and design suggests that you are supposed to get
    used to these controls by touch and feel.For instance,the ACTIVATION of
    cruise is a small indent below the RAISED cancel feature (on the DECEL
    side) and conversely,the RESUME function is ABOVE the raised cancel
    feature ( on the ACCEL side).When you place your thumb on either side of
    the raised feature you apparently know where you are after repeated
    usings.Sort of like some kind of ergonomic training in progress.My only
    complaint is the location of the cruise control MASTER (memory)
    switch.It is hard to find on the lower dash near the door.
    I am always hitting the monroof control by mistake......of course I
    don't think they thought of the ergonomic placement of this very
    well......
     
    SAC 441, May 9, 2004
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    dbrebel Guest

    It's not really BS... ever since these controls have been available on
    any cars, there have been tactile indicators on them to allow for
    using the controls without taking your eyes off the road.

    The lights are being added to satisfy those people who are overwhelmed
    by the prospect of committing a tactile few indicators to memory.
     
    dbrebel, May 11, 2004
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    Im anonymous Guest

    Manufacturers make what people want....not necessarily what makes
    sense. If they're lighted, that means you must want to look at it.
    This involves taking your eyes off the road. Defeats the purpose
    doesn't it? Make sense??
     
    Im anonymous, May 11, 2004
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