Accord 91 Question - Break Light

Discussion in 'Accord' started by USC, May 22, 2004.

  1. USC

    USC Guest

    Hi group,
    My 91 Accord EX suddenly has the hand brake light on. I never use the
    handbrake. When I parked the car today I set the handbrake , released it and
    turned on the car but the light did not go off. Can't figure out what the
    problem could be.

    I got the wheels rotated yesterday...can that cause anything wrong to turn
    on the light ??

    Please help.

    TIA
    HondaNewbie
     
    USC, May 22, 2004
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  2. USC

    Randolph Guest

    Check the fluid level in the brake fluid reservoir. The hand brake
    indicator doubles as the low brake fluid indicator.
     
    Randolph, May 22, 2004
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  3. USC

    motsco_ _ Guest


    ++++++++++++++++++++

    Check your brake (and clutch) fluid first, and use your park brake
    regularly anyhow. It keeps your (back drum, if you have them) brakes
    adjusted, and they will last longer.

    Read the fine owner's manual. Both of these solutions are in there.

    If you dont' have a manual, your Honda dealer can get one in.
    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, May 22, 2004
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  4. Thank you Randolph and motsco__

    Both of you were right, it was the brake fluid. I have the Chilton manual
    for my Accord and it suggests to check the brake fluid level every few
    weeks. I had never checked it since I owned this car.

    Thanks a lot guys.

    HN
     
    The HondaNewbie, May 25, 2004
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  5. USC

    Eric Guest

    You may want to inspect the thickness of your brake linings. In the case
    that you don't have a leak in the hydraulic system, one of the only reasons
    for your brake fluid to get low enough for the warning indicator to come on
    is reduced lining thickness.

    Eric
     
    Eric, May 27, 2004
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  6. USC

    HondaNewbie Guest

    Eric

    I would like to know Where/how to inspect brake linings... I am a total
    newbie and just following the manual and the postings from the Honda forum.
    :)

    Thank you.
    HN.
     
    HondaNewbie, May 27, 2004
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  7. USC

    Eric Guest

    In brief, you'll need to jack up the car, set it on jack stands, and remove
    the wheels. For the front brakes, you'll need to remove the pads from the
    calipers in order to get an accurate measurement of the remaining pad
    thickness (do not interchange the inner and outer pads and avoid touching
    the pad and rotor friction surface). For the rear brakes, you'll need to
    remove the brake drum if your car is so equipped in order to inspect the
    brake shoes (avoid breathing ANY brake dust). The original Honda brake pads
    have metal wear indicators which will contact the rotors and make a high
    pitch screeching noise whenever the wheels turn thereby letting you know
    that it's time to replace the brakes. However, many after market pads don't
    have these wear indicators and considering the age of your Accord, it would
    not be wise to go on the assumption that your pads have wear indicators.
    The minimum lining thickness is 2.0 mm for the front pads as well as the
    rear shoes.

    For further information, a copy of the factory service manual can be found
    at http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/AccordManual/index.html.

    Eric
     
    Eric, May 27, 2004
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  8. USC

    HondaNewbie Guest

    Hi all
    The problem seems to be something rather then the drop of brake Fluid level.
    It seems that there is some leak in my Master Brake Cylinder Fluid level.
    Even though the level does not fall drastically but whenever the brake light
    comes on, I insert very little brake fluid and the light goes off for a day
    or two and then again it comes on. I did this two times and the same thing
    happens.
    Reading Eric's post (below), I still have to inspect the brakes. However, I
    hear no screeching noise from any of the brakes while driving.
    There is something wrong with the brakes, as I feel they are little slow in
    action.

    Any suggestions? Do I need complete new brakes ?
    Please advise.

    Thank you.
    HN.
     
    HondaNewbie, May 30, 2004
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  9. USC

    Randolph Guest

    HondaNewbie wrote:

    Some brake pads come with wear indicators (a metal clip that touches the
    rotor when the pads are worn down to where they need to be replaced),
    but not all pads have this. If there is no wear indicator, you may not
    hear any unusual sounds even if the brake lining is worn completely off.
    (I helped a friend replace pads and rotors last weekend, lining
    completely gone on one pad but no unusual sound).
    Brake work is not very difficult, but it is kind of important that it is
    done right... If you want to tackle it yourself, start by getting at
    least a Haynes manual or even better the one from
    http://www.helminc.com. No shame in taking it to a shop for brake
    service either.
     
    Randolph, May 30, 2004
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  10. USC

    E. Meyer Guest

    If this is happening fairly often, I would say you have a serious leak.
    Look at the back of the master cylinder and if it is wet with brake fluid or
    the paint is flaking off the power booster, your master cylinder is going
    bad and you should replace it. If the master cylinder checks out, then look
    for leaks by the wheels.

    If the light comes on before the level in the master cylinder reaches the
    "min" mark, but goes off with the addition of fluid, it could be the low
    fluid sensor is stuck or is going bad.

    If you are describing a one-time occurrence, then look for worn down brake
    linings.
     
    E. Meyer, May 31, 2004
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  11. Hi all

    Thank you to all of you who replied and gave me thier valuble feedback.
    I checked the Master Brake Fluid cylinder for any leaks or wetspots etc. but
    could not find any, ....so can I assume it is ok...?
    Also when I opened it and looked inside, I found a small piece of foil (must
    have fallen when I first filled the Brake Fluid) which I removed and now it
    has been 3 days and the brake light has'nt turned on yet..... I assume
    everythingz ok for now?!.
    However, I am going to get the brake linings checked as suggested by
    everybody.

    Thank you for feedback, if there are anymore suggestions of this topic,
    Please do send me an email or you may post it on the group for the benefit
    of other newbies like me :)

    Thank you
     
    The HondaNewbie, Jun 2, 2004
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  12. USC

    E. Meyer Guest

    Probably, although they have occasionally been know to leak into the booster
    with no obvious leak. If your pedal is solid, its probably OK.

    If the foil was interfering with the fluid sensor, then you have probably
    fixed the problem by finding & removing it.
     
    E. Meyer, Jun 3, 2004
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  13. Sorry about posting again.
    I was wrong about my last post....the brake light came on after a few
    days... I looked down and so some brake fluid leakage near the wheels....

    Since I was not able to figure out the issue...I took it to a mechanic who I
    trust, he looked at it and told me some hose pipe was leaking which goes
    from the master break cylinder to I don't remember where.... he bought the
    part , replaced it and filled the master Brake cylinder, the car has been
    fine since. And the guy charged me only $60 for the total work.

    Thank you all for the valuable suggestions.

    HN
     
    The HondaNewbie, Jun 12, 2004
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