Accord coupe - washer fluid container

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Pszemol, Jan 17, 2008.

  1. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    For the second time I needed to refil washer fluid in
    my 2004 accord coupe. I got the 1 gallon jug from the
    store when the washer nozzles stopped delivering fluid.
    Poured the bottle but before the bottle was empty
    the container in the car was full and overflowing.
    2-3 inches of the fluid left unused in the bottle.

    Is this what you get? Or my pump is not sucking all
    the fluid from the container?

    Why would you design a car with a washer fluid
    container just smaller than the widely available
    container the fluid is sold in the stores?

    Would you consider it as a bad design?
     
    Pszemol, Jan 17, 2008
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  2. Pszemol

    Paul Guest

    If your preferred method is to suck the reservoir absolutely dry before
    refilling it, thus risking being without washer fluid at some point when you
    really need it, then yes, I suppose you might consider it a bad design.

    If, on the other hand, you do what a lot of people do and add fluid to the
    reservoir periodically before it's completely dry, and then put the bottle
    back in the garage for next time, then it really doesn't much matter how big
    either the reservoir or the bottle is, does it?
     
    Paul, Jan 17, 2008
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  3. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    I can see you are an old fashioned guy who likes to spend time
    with his car and keep the garage full of funny bottles... :)

    Good design in my opinion would be low fluid warning light
    on the dashboard and reservoir big enough to hold FULL bottle
    when the warning ligth comes on to minimalise required mainenance.

    The only warning I get from my accord is that the stream of
    water is weaker, but then I have 2-3 more attempts and it is dry.
    Even then it does not hold the full bottle, which is sad... :)

    Don't get me wrong, but I am comparing this accord to my old
    1995 camry, which it happens had the reservoid big enought
    to hold the full gallon of fluid in one big gulp.
     
    Pszemol, Jan 17, 2008
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    For the same reason you don't design all cars with a 200 gallon fuel tank.



    Only if you expect to have a lot of owners without the technical skills
    required to reseal a container and stow it away.
     
    AZ Nomad, Jan 17, 2008
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  5. Pszemol

    AZ Nomad Guest

    some cars do. If they all did, then you'd be whining that it
    doesn't hold a 5 gallon drum puchased at costco.
     
    AZ Nomad, Jan 17, 2008
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  6. Pszemol

    JM Guest

    My '01 coupe has a warning light, and when it comes on I can put an entire
    jug of washer fluid in and still have room left for more... Maybe it's
    because I'm in Canada (the frozen white north and all), or maybe the design
    of the '04 required a smaller reservoir.
     
    JM, Jan 18, 2008
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  7. Pszemol

    Bob Jones Guest

    Not really, you can use the extra to clean your windows.
     
    Bob Jones, Jan 18, 2008
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  8. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    Bad argument, since 1 gallon jug is *the smallest* amount
    of washer fluid you can buy in a retail stores...
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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  9. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    In my user manual there is a note about warning light for
    Canadian models, even for 2004. I think I will look around
    for a Canadian version of the washer reservoid then :))
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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  10. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    This is your second stupid analogy in this thread...

    Where can you buy fuel in 200 gallon barrels in retail?
    I would suggest you think your responses trough before
    you hit the send button...
    I am sure you have technical skills to get up from the
    couch and walk to the TV to change the channel but you
    still think it is very convenient to use the remote...

    It is not that I cannot put the cap back on the bottle
    and store the bottle - I just see it as very inconvenient.
    If it was - let's say - half bottle left unused - then
    I would understand, but we are talking about 10-15%.
    Do they REALLY had such a hard time squizing this extra
    pint into the very slightly bigger reservoir? Doubt it.
    They just did not care. Lack of attention to details?
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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  11. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    I would prefer to have a choice: pour whole bottle
    or leave couple of drops on the bottom for cleaning.

    I know it is a small think, really a detail, but
    it is showing that Honda does not care about details.
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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    Robert Barr Guest

    Maybe it's
    Yeah, and you guys (and girls) get the heated mirrors. We don't. Even
    my old '85 Scirocco had heated mirrors, but not this new Civic. Grr....
     
    Robert Barr, Jan 18, 2008
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  13. Pszemol

    Robert Barr Guest

    Perhaps it was designed with a metric volume in mind.
     
    Robert Barr, Jan 18, 2008
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  14. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    I wonder how much savings honda got not doing these things.
    I got EX-L trim, you would expect it to be fully loaded - such a wrong idea.
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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    AZ Nomad Guest

    No. You're just too stupid to get it. There are compromises made in
    designing cars. It's lovely to have a 200 gallon fuel tank, but size
    and weight make it impossible.
     
    AZ Nomad, Jan 18, 2008
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  16. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    Well, the reason for this design decision is unknown.
    Toyota designing camry could also just get lucky... :)
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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  17. Pszemol

    Pszemol Guest

    You completelly missed the point, and that is why your
    analogy is simply stupid. I am not arguing I want
    20 gallon reservoir for a washer fluid to keep me going
    for two years - I am complaining that the reservoir is
    unable to fit a STANDARD RETAIL PACKAGE of the product.

    Get it now?
     
    Pszemol, Jan 18, 2008
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    Elle Guest

    I personally am finding much of the "fancy" electronics to
    be more trouble than they're worth.

    I am on an extended visit in a house with a heat pump with
    too many electronics to it. Four visits so far from the
    repair technician in one year. Contrast this with my own
    house's furnace: Four years and no problems whatsoever.

    Same deal with newer cars. So much of the electronics are
    bells and whistles or break too often.
     
    Elle, Jan 18, 2008
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  19. my 2008 civic LX (canadian version) has heated mirrors and a washer jug that
    accomodates 4L (just over 1 gallon) no problem.

    My 98 civic also takes over a gallon of washer fluid.

    t
     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Jan 18, 2008
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    maumee Guest

    I work for a company that makes master cylinder reservours for the
    brake system manufacturers and we also make a few washer bottles. The
    whole thing comes down to space. The master cylinder reservoir and the
    washer fluid reservoirs are one of the last things designed for the
    engine compartment. All the hardware that must be there and has to be
    in a particular position are put into the envelope and the the master
    cylinder reservoir is designed and squeezed into whatever space is
    left which will allow the correct fluid volume for all the federally
    mandated brake system tests. It is even worse for the washer bottle.
    It gets squashed into whatever room is left and sometimes that space
    allows for a gallon and sometimes not. Since there is no federal
    regulation on the amount of washer fluid available, you get what fits.
    I hope this helps.
     
    maumee, Jan 18, 2008
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