Accord coupe - washer fluid container

I would agree with you if I did not know that Canadian version
of the Accord has almost twice the volume its reservoir...

I cannot imagine Canadian version having much more space in
that area to fit a bigger bottle with a sensor and extra wire.
I would rather lean toward saving money with smaller, simpler bottle.

Is yours Canadian version? Acording to the specs it should fit 4.5 liters.

Well, maybe they were designed to be sold in California only? ;-)
The poor guy in Montana or Michigan would have to add the fluid
every 15 minutes during his winter trips... ;-)

 

Previous estimate was eye-balled to be 15%.
The measured lefover from the bottle was 3 & 1/2 cups.

 

Of course I am wrong You are obviously always right.

 

So you think a smaller bottle is a benefit compared to a bigger one?
You must be kidding.

 

Engine does not consume oil and does not require oil replenishment
from the end user/driver on a regular basis. At least good engine,
I am not talking about really old or broken ones here loosing oil.

Oil change, however easy for the end user/driver, is designed
to be done at the shop by the proffessional. And a pro is seldom
using a retail quart bottles. They dispense oil from a big drum.

So it does not really matter for an ordinary driver how much oil
fits his/her car engine. It is not his/her concern...


Opposite is true for the windshield washer fluid. It is frequent
maintenance item which is mostly done by the end user who does not
buy washer fluid in shop quantities like 50 gallon drums...

It is sold in retail in one gallon standard containers and
it should fit completelly without lefover in the reservoir.

Of course it is only my opinion and everybody can think
differently - I do not really care to convince you all

 

Well, I have not made statistic study on the reservoir size
in cars What I know is my old 95 camry had the reservoid
big enough to make washer fluid maintenance a very rare event.
It was just enough fluid there to keep me going between oil
changes and not worrying about washer fluid fill.
Later in the car life, when I started to do my oil changes
I was more frequently adding fluid and I know it fits the
whole bottle and it was nice. I guess I got spoiled with
my camry and now I see design flaws in my accord a lot...
Too small washer fluid, sprinkler nozzle spraying the driver
wiper blade instead of the glass, frequently light bulbs
blowing on the dashboard/interior switches, etc...

 

As a side note, I finally noticed that the long plastic strap that
retains the washer reservoir cap IS a dipstick, with markings and
everything... I never thought to check the level, I just fill it up
when I know I've been using a lot...

--Gene

 

The same can be said for the placement of the washer nozzles in my '03
and '07 Accords, which is in a recess under the lip of the hood, a
location where snow & ice tend to get packed in by the driver-side wiper
on the backstroke, blocking the nozzle.

--Gene

 

Exactly the point. Mine 04 accord coupe driver nozzle is additionally
very hard to adjust the way it does not hit the driver wiper in the park
location. So if you want to spray a dirty window BEFORE the first
swing of the wiper arm scratching your dry glass you are out of luck.

It seems to be obvious that windshield washing design was the last
on the designer mind when accord was on its "drafting table"...

 

Hey..no biggie...someone had to do the math

Peace,
Polfus

 

Good point, to tell you the truth...

Peace,
Polfus

 

Well quit confusing me...I have enough trouble as it is

Peace,
Polfus

 

On the dash, to the very right of the air blower choices, closest to the
passenger seat..you'll see the little rear-view mirror icon.

Peace,
Polfus

 

I wan't trying to be funny, just honest..really...checking visually
regularly is just what I do...everyone's different

Good point...everyone's different as I said, and perhaps checking regularly
isn't an option, especially if you don't even like to get out of your car
when its so cold and rainy...

Oh no....of course not !

Like I said as well..I agree with you, and would love the warning option for
it as well like on Canadian models.

Peace,
Polfus

 

No, that makes you wrong. Or right..wait a minute...what's the question?

Where's my Geritol, anyway?!

Peace,
Polfus

 

No, I'm just playing devil's advocate and all that...a smaller reservoir
bottle isn't a benefit, unless you count the .00072 extra MPG from less
fluid an Accord has to carry around.

Heh..

Peace,
Polfus

 

All engines consume "some" oil, just not supposed to consume enough for the
average person to need to top it off between oil changes.

You don't need to be a "professional" to do an oil change. Safely jacking a
car up, getting a little dirty and properly disposing of the used motor oil
is something most don't want to do.

Many people I know just wait until their oil change, and they have it topped
off there as part of the service. Unless you're in an area to frequently
need to use the washer fluid...

So a person needs to run the fluid dry before filling it up? Not a good
move! I don't think the average person wants to pull over the side of the
road when they run out of fluid, and happen to have a gallon to exactly top
it off.

Agreed

-Dave

 

I found it hard to believe Honda would spend the money to make two
different reservoir sizes...until I checked the reservoir capacities for
my Canadian car and the US version of that same car.

Canadian version: 4.5L (4.8qt)
US version: 2.5L (2.6qt)

So you're right!

That is weird. Maybe they're using the smaller bottle on US cars to save
weight. Canada has never had CAFE-type mileage regulations like the US
has had since 1975, so weight's never been a concern up here like down
there.

Or a lighter one with less fluid...

It's a Canadian-market vehicle and it does.

The reservoir actually still has about an inch of fluid in it when the
sprayers stop working. This is because the motor pickup is part-way up
the side of the bottle.
I've discovered I can get a few more squirts out of it if I swerve left
then right briefly while operating the sprayer.

Nope. Up here in Canada too. My '75 Corolla's bottle held a quart, had a
filler neck the size of a quarter, and was right up against the
firewall. What a pig to fill.

My dad's '70 Ford had an even smaller bottle as I recall.

We did. It was /most/ annoying.

 

And why do hot-dog buns come in bags of 12, but hot dogs in packages of
8??? It's crazy, I tell ya!

 

Maybe, but I am tempted to find a Canadian version reservoir
with a sending unit (float switch) and fit it to my US Accord.
Are you located in Canada? Could you point me to some good
online store where I could find the parts I need or at least
look up the part numbers for Canadian version?

Nice trick, but they probably have done this intentionally
to avoid some dust or crud precipitating potentially from
the fluid and collecting at the bottom entering the pump
and clogging your sprayer nozzles... So I would not do it
other than in emergency situation when you have to clean
the glass no matter what