ACCORD CRAP

Discussion in 'Accord' started by hunkman, Nov 24, 2004.

  1. My biggest complaint (I don't argue with your points) is that many of them
    are built to hold up for 3 years - after that, it isn't a warranty issue. I
    personally have known 2 people who bought mid-90s Ford Escorts in which the
    engine was destroyed by water pump failure (caused the timing belt to fail)
    after the warranty expired and before the car was paid for. Aargh!

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Nov 30, 2004
    #21
  2. hunkman

    jim beam Guest

    glad you brought that up! in fact, a significant proportion of euro r&d
    budgets goes into life limitation. the technology to make components
    almost infinitely reliable is well known. what's a really hard
    technical challenge is getting something to work long enough, but no more.

    can't say who, but a certain high end european car manufacturer came to
    one of my old metallurgy department back in the 80's with a technical
    challenge they could not solve themselves. their objective was to have
    transmissions fail at about 100k - no sooner. transmissions were chosen
    because it was expensive to replace, but gave no bad rap like rust or
    dead engines. solving the problem required designing a fatigue life
    into the tooth root of every ratio in the transmission based on usage.
    these can be under 10 hours for reverse & several thousand for top - all
    radically different environments from a fatigue perspective. when these
    hours of operation are reached, the gears fail, and the fact that they
    /all/ will fail means it's uneconomic for aftermarket repairers to come
    out with a fix kit for a known problem. the irony is, it costs about
    20%-30% /more/ to make these transmissions because their quality control
    needs to be very much more rigorous. all i can say is don't buy a
    certain brand of european luxury vehicle that advertises their
    transmissions as being "maintenance free". because they really mean it!
     
    jim beam, Nov 30, 2004
    #22
  3. hunkman

    marcel Guest

    euro cars are louzy too nowadays
    the big three in europe: ford, vw en opel are just expensive crap.
    weak electronics and other cheap parts are killing the cars lifetime en
    reliability.
    especially opel and vw are suffering from that kind of management.
    therefore an increasing number of people buy japanese or korean cars
    (kia and hyundai)
    some people buy mercedes benz w124 series from mid 80s because they are
    better build and more reliable then the current models.

    marcel
     
    marcel, Nov 30, 2004
    #23
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