Accord Fuel/Spark Blues

Discussion in 'Accord' started by jostorama, Oct 16, 2005.

  1. jostorama

    jostorama Guest

    I have a 91 Accord... I found it cheap and have been tinkering with it.
    The problem? It runs good for a very short time and then wants to die
    at low RPMs. The longer it runs the worse it preforms at low RPM. As
    soon as you get above 1.5/2K it runs great...

    I have fixed the main relay, rewired and replaced most of the dist.
    including the ignitor module, cleaned the throttle body, and kicked it
    really hard.. None of which work.

    I wonder if perhaps the main relay needs to be looked at again. Or
    what?

    Any suggestions would be GREAT. Thanks you all.
     
    jostorama, Oct 16, 2005
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    Elle Guest

    This sounds a lot like a failing distributor coil.

    Some cheaper stuff to replace, first (and they're due anyway within a couple
    of years or so):
    Air filter, fuel filter, spark plugs, distributor cap 'n rotor, ignition
    wires.
     
    Elle, Oct 16, 2005
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  3. jostorama

    jostorama Guest

    Ahh.. I should of mentioned, the cap, rotor, and air filter are new.
     
    jostorama, Oct 16, 2005
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  4. jostorama

    Burt S. Guest

    "Distributor coil" is a term not widly used. Either ignition coil or reluctor coils. :-|
     
    Burt S., Oct 17, 2005
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  5. jostorama

    Burt S. Guest

    From reading your past post it sounds like a bad distributor housing.
    Since your igniter is new check the distributor shaft for stability at all
    rpm. Years back this model had problems with the distributor shaft
    interfering with the reluctor coil.

    Troubleshoot may require hooking it to a scope or swap the
    distributor housing after using the best device you already have, your
    eyes.
     
    Burt S., Oct 17, 2005
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  6. jostorama

    jostorama Guest

    Burt,

    This is a new concept for me. Most of the suggestions have been change
    your plugs/swap your wires/ etc.

    What does a new housing run? Would a completely new distributor do the
    trick since it changes the coil, the housing, and everything else?
     
    jostorama, Oct 17, 2005
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    Burt S. Guest

    The concept is that the signal from the reluctor pickup coil should
    be clean. Since the signal error is more noticeable at low rpm and
    the ECU is a solid state device I am pointing to the housing
    problem. Also, an error from the reluctor will get your rpm jumping
    wildly.
    The housing is estimate $145, a whole new set $245-350. Back
    in those days, I'd just swap the bearing for $0.50. That's where
    the problem originates.
    Yes, if you run a test thru my scope and I'd confirmed it. Otherwise,
    it's up to you.
     
    Burt S., Oct 18, 2005
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  8. I would think that replacing the bearing alone would be fine as long as the
    housing hasn't accumulated any of that infamous red dust. Otherwise, the
    housing would need to be replaced as well. When my '93 Accord was infected
    with the red dust, the housing, cap and rotor were replaced.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Oct 18, 2005
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    Elle Guest

    A new housing from an online Honda parts company (still OEM and often much
    cheaper than the dealer) runs $248. Coil and ignitor run an additiobnal $71
    and $76, respectively. You're looking at $400 easily.

    Probably a good investment for this 91 Accord.

    Alternatively, if you don't plan to keep the car long, you might try a
    non-OEM distributor (housing; coil; ignitor; the whole shebang) from
    Autozone. Some guy here paid about $200 for this. I wouldn't expect it to
    last long.

    There is a test you can do on the distributor coil. www.autozone.com has a
    free online manual that provides it.
     
    Elle, Oct 18, 2005
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    Misterbeets Guest

    Possibly lean misfire due to vacuum leak since it becomes noticeable
    once the cold engine fuel enrichment stops and occurs at high
    vacuum/part throttle, e.g., under 2000 RPM.
     
    Misterbeets, Oct 18, 2005
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