Accord suspension "Ker plunk!"

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Chris, Nov 16, 2005.

  1. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Ciao e tutti,

    Ref. '93 Accord 2.2 4WS (UK version) 80,000 miles

    Both my left & right front suspension are making serious "ker-plunk" when
    the suspension is de-compressed e.g. when encountering a pot-hole or on
    the down-side of a speed-hump. This is worse on cold mornings. Driver-
    side is nosiest.

    I have had various suggestions to replace:

    1/ Suspension units & (all) bushes
    2/ TOP SUSPENSION ARM + BALL JOINT+BUSHES
    3/ Front Suspension Link Kit (I don't know what this is)
    4/ All of the above

    What do we think?
    Also is any of this DIY? Sounds a bit serious to me.

    Thanks in advance
     
    Chris, Nov 16, 2005
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  2. Chris

    Eric Guest

    It would be extremely difficult to tell exactly without performing a
    physical inspection first. Has any of the above advice you've received
    resulted from a physical inspection or are they just knowledgeable
    hypotheses?

    Eric
     
    Eric, Nov 17, 2005
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  3. Chris

    Eric Guest

    It would be extremely difficult to tell exactly without performing a
    physical inspection first. Has any of the above advice you've received
    resulted from a physical inspection or are they just knowledgeable
    hypotheses?

    Eric
     
    Eric, Nov 17, 2005
    #3
  4. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Hi,
    It's just passed it's MOT without a mention of anything worn. Apparentlyy
    nothing is visible on a ramp. I am told that dismantling is the next
    diagnostic stage. I was just hoping it was a common fault at a certain
    age or mileage. All suspension parts are original as far as we can tell.

    Thanks for your input.

    Pip pip
     
    Chris, Nov 19, 2005
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  5. Chris

    Chris Guest

    Hi,
    It's just passed it's MOT without a mention of anything worn. Apparentlyy
    nothing is visible on a ramp. I am told that dismantling is the next
    diagnostic stage. I was just hoping it was a common fault at a certain
    age or mileage. All suspension parts are original as far as we can tell.

    Thanks for your input.

    Pip pip
     
    Chris, Nov 19, 2005
    #5
  6. Chris

    mlpogue Guest


    Does your car have coil springs? I have silenced ker plunk sounds on
    my '93 Accord on two occasions by replacing broken coils. They both
    broke higher up on the coil, and the breaks aren't real noticeable
    without a close look. Both front springs broke on different occasions.
    I don't recall the exact mileage, but one was well before 200,000 kms

    My two cents or should that be two pence
     
    mlpogue, Nov 19, 2005
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  7. Chris

    Eric Guest

    There are many suspension checks that cannot be performed when the
    suspension is loaded by having the tires on ramps as you have described
    above. A competent mechanic will use devices such as a large prybar and a
    large set of ChannelLock pliers to test the various suspension joints and
    bushings for free play. In addition, it is also quite common to grab the
    tire and rock it back and forth in a few different orientations designed to
    reveal looseness in certain parts, e.g. upper and lower ball joints, wheel
    bearing, and the tie rod. Again, none of these checks can be performed when
    the suspension is loaded with the tires on ramps. If this was indeed the
    protocol that was followed during your recent inspection, then I would
    suggest that the results were inconclusive at best.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Nov 20, 2005
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  8. Chris

    Eric Guest

    There are many suspension checks that cannot be performed when the
    suspension is loaded by having the tires on ramps as you have described
    above. A competent mechanic will use devices such as a large prybar and a
    large set of ChannelLock pliers to test the various suspension joints and
    bushings for free play. In addition, it is also quite common to grab the
    tire and rock it back and forth in a few different orientations designed to
    reveal looseness in certain parts, e.g. upper and lower ball joints, wheel
    bearing, and the tie rod. Again, none of these checks can be performed when
    the suspension is loaded with the tires on ramps. If this was indeed the
    protocol that was followed during your recent inspection, then I would
    suggest that the results were inconclusive at best.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Nov 20, 2005
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  9. Chris

    Guest Guest

    Our 1990 Accord has 188k miles, no suspension parts replaced except struts
    at 67K. I get a steady vibration and a lot of "road feel" in the steering
    at any speed. Vibration steadies out in the 70s mph range, more predominant
    at slower speeds. Looking to rebuild front end, replace struts.

    Do I replace bushings in upper and lower control arms or replace the entire
    assemblies?

    Also radius rod bushings, replace or ignore?

    Best question, what should be replaced and what should be left alone? Yes,
    I know I'm asking for armchair diagnostics.

    Next best question, best internet sources for good CHEAP OEM parts?

    Thanks.

    Don
     
    Guest, Nov 25, 2005
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  10. Chris

    Guest Guest

    Our 1990 Accord has 188k miles, no suspension parts replaced except struts
    at 67K. I get a steady vibration and a lot of "road feel" in the steering
    at any speed. Vibration steadies out in the 70s mph range, more predominant
    at slower speeds. Looking to rebuild front end, replace struts.

    Do I replace bushings in upper and lower control arms or replace the entire
    assemblies?

    Also radius rod bushings, replace or ignore?

    Best question, what should be replaced and what should be left alone? Yes,
    I know I'm asking for armchair diagnostics.

    Next best question, best internet sources for good CHEAP OEM parts?

    Thanks.

    Don
     
    Guest, Nov 25, 2005
    #10
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