accord v6 vs 4

Discussion in 'Accord' started by w, Apr 8, 2007.

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    w Guest

    i want to buy an 07 accord.

    i have a 99 v6 camry that requires extreme effort to change rear 3
    plugs and $ 1000 + by others to change timing belt.

    i hear 4cyl accord has steel chain that does not need replacing at
    scheduled interval.

    how hard is it to change v6 accord rear plugs ?

    thank you
     
    w, Apr 8, 2007
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    Brian Smith Guest

    Easy. It took me all of thirty minutes from the time I picked up the
    tools and went outside to the time I came back inside, after the work was
    completed.
     
    Brian Smith, Apr 8, 2007
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    G-Man Guest

    Plugs easy.

    Still $600+ to change timing belt and water pump. My son as the 4-cyl and
    it is very peppy. I still prefer my V6 though.

    G-Man
     
    G-Man, Apr 8, 2007
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    Don R Guest

    I just bought an 07 Accord 4 cylinder. It has plenty of power for most
    purposes. I was going to buy the 6 but they encouraged me to test drive the
    4 and I'm glad I did. The 6 costs a bunch more initially and more on
    maintenance and with gas prices rising it was a no-brainer. I highly
    recommend you try the 4 before you make your final decision. BTW, the chain
    is extremely quiet. See for yourself.
     
    Don R, Apr 9, 2007
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    bob zee Guest

    more importantly, how hard is the v6 on tires, gas, maintenance,
    wallet, brakes, etc.?

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Apr 9, 2007
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    isquat Guest

    v6 is coupled to an automatic in most configurations,
    how hard could it possibly be on tires?
    It weighs more than i4 naturally, the front end is heavier
    so it will wear the fronts marginally more than i4. People rarely
    run decent tires on accords anyway, so it's no big loss.
    why do you even care? If you want one and can afford to run
    it why not? Judging from your question you might not, therefore
    to be on the safe side and allow for the possibility of the
    $4-5 gas why won't you do yourself a favor and buy an i4
    with a stick?
     
    isquat, Apr 9, 2007
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    bob zee Guest

    ~240hp vs. ~166hp - applied to which tires? yep, the front ones.
    the same tires doing the stopping and turning.

    i love my 4-cyl 5-speed accord.
    :~)>

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Apr 9, 2007
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    G-Man Guest

    And I LOVE my V6. So we are both happy :)

    BTW, I'm getting 29 Mpg on the V6. Can't complain! I think the auto trans
    shifts so much smoother on the V6 compared to the 4, but if you are
    "Sticking" it, doesn't matter.

    One of my sons has the LX4-Cyl 5-Spd (2005) and my other son has the EXV6
    5-Spd (2006). I have my old '96 LX 4-Cyl beater and a 2006 EX-V6 NAV. The
    wife has an '05 Pilot.

    We are a Honda family for sure.

    G-Man


    do yourself a favor and buy an i4
     
    G-Man, Apr 9, 2007
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  9. Wow.

    I have a 94 Lexus ES300 and I get 27-28mpg on the freeway. Are you
    getting 29 on the freeway or in town?

    If that's all you're getting on the freeway, try this: do two or three
    full tanks of Shell V-Power, then start using Shell 87 octane fuel. See
    what your mileage becomes.

    Yeah, Shell gas overall is more expensive to buy than the grocery store
    gas. But it turned out to be CHEAPER TO RUN than the grocery store gas,
    because I got more miles out of each and every gallon.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Apr 9, 2007
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    G-Man Guest

    It's mixed driving. Probably 50/50. Even my commute has a Mtn. I have to
    cross.

    I'll give the Comparison with those fuels a try. Right now I use Costco 87
    Octane. Yeah, it's cheap gas, but it's always fresh! They pump more fuel
    than anyone in town :)

    I used to use HighTest in my sportbike all the time (GSX-R1000), but it
    never got any better mileage or performance I could tell. What I did notice
    is you can hear more knock in it when the temp is 95-100. In those temps, I
    go the higher octane.

    BTW, I ran a tank of Nutec race fuel in it once, and on the Dyno, it boosted
    the Hp +5. But at $90 a 5 Gallon can at the time, it really wasn't worth it
    :)

    G-Man
     
    G-Man, Apr 9, 2007
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    JXStern Guest

    Neither is built for racing, and in city traffic and freeways under
    80mph, you're lucky if you draw even 100hp out of either engine for
    more than a few seconds in an average day. Well, maybe if you go up a
    mountain pass on your commute. What wears tires is the extra weight
    of the six, and whatever stress you get in handling. Or carrying bags
    of cement in the trunk.

    And that's where I think the four is better, the Accord frame is
    better balanced with the lighter engine so there's less weight, less
    direct stress, and less understeering stress with the four.

    Though who cares, again, in normal use the six will probably get 60k
    or more on OEM tires anyway. But just maybe, the four is a little
    nicer to drive in some situations. In others, sure, getting another
    80hp for a few seconds is more fun!

    Me too, it's a work of technological art.

    J.
     
    JXStern, Apr 9, 2007
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  12. Me too, it's a work of technological art.[/QUOTE]

    Oh, man, I couldn't agree more. A manual transmission, 4 cylinder Honda
    is an absolute jewel of engineering. It won't die, you can't break it,
    it just runs forever.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Apr 9, 2007
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  13. The thing with the Shell V-Power is not the octane level, but the level
    of fuel system cleaners it has. A couple tanks of V-Power will clean
    out any of the Costco-sourced gunk you may have. Then it's OK to go
    back to the specified 87 octane Shell, which has more cleaners than a
    Costco tank will ever see but not as much as the V-Power. The 87 octane
    Shell fuel will keep your system clean after it's been cleaned out.

    Get your fuel system clean, and run Shell. Give yourself, say, 4-5
    tanks total and see what happens. I'm thinking that if I'm getting
    27-28mpg with a 94 Lexus with 175K miles on it, a newish Honda V6 should
    do significantly better. But only with the right fuels (and I don't
    mean octane rating, which has nothing to do with it).

    If you have any questions, see Shell's web site about their Top Tier
    fuel specification as recommended by Honda and Toyota.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Apr 9, 2007
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    MLD Guest

    True when new!!!! A bit down the line when the engines get a bit tired is
    when you start to see the (big) difference.
    MLD
     
    MLD, Apr 10, 2007
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    isquat Guest

    Would you like fries with that? Gotta wonder how you will
    extract those 240 hp with a slushbox.
    Besides, the only speed where you can overpower the wheels
    is the first one and you need a rowing implement for that
    to apply whatever TORQUE the engine can muster
    to the LSDless frontend. 240hp sheesh.
    I'm not disputing that V6 is pulling harder and the car accelerates
    faster, but for shaving rubber quickly wheelspeen helps (as does
    ABSlessness of brakes. Not an option on Accord
    anyway).
     
    isquat, Apr 10, 2007
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    bob zee Guest


    who is taking my car out of my garage at night everytime 60,000 miles
    shows up on the odometer and wears out the tires? I need to get an
    alarm on there and hopefully catch the little rascal.

    now i know why my tires are wearing out. i knew it couldn't be from
    spinning or locking them up.

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Apr 10, 2007
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    isquat Guest

    Holy cow! You get 60k miles out of your tires? What kind of
    crap do Accords come outfitted with? I could not get
    30k out of crapenza 92 and these tires suck big time.
    I dire not to think how 60k tires perform.
     
    isquat, Apr 13, 2007
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  18. A lot of cars, foreign and domestic, come with cheap OEM tires (various
    brands) that don't last as long as higher end tires.
     
    High Tech Misfit, Apr 13, 2007
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    bob zee Guest

    i don't get that mileage out of my tires, but tire wear is not
    strictly a function of the speed differential between the pavement and
    the tire. my previous posts were lame attempts, on my part, to prove
    that the v6 accord /will/ wear out tires faster than a 4-cyl accord.

    bob z.
     
    bob zee, Apr 13, 2007
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  20. I got 100,000 out of a set of Bridgestones on an '80 Corolla. Needless to
    say, I even called Bridgestone to get another set, and of course they were
    discontinued! ("we need to sell tires!" the Factory Rep told me!)
     
    Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B, Apr 14, 2007
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