Accord Vs Civic

Discussion in 'Accord' started by Jarrett Hurd, Jun 2, 2005.

  1. Jarrett Hurd

    L Alpert Guest

    Depending on need, the Accords can fit 4-5 adults comfortably, which is what
    I needed.....
     
    L Alpert, Jun 4, 2005
    #21
  2. Jarrett Hurd

    L Alpert Guest

    I just re-upped my policy for my three Hondas (2004 EXL 4 Door Accord, 2001
    EXL 2 door Accord and a 2002 EX Civic).

    In looking this over, the Civic is about 60-70% for the same coverage as
    either Accord.
     
    L Alpert, Jun 4, 2005
    #22
  3. Jarrett Hurd

    sonarrat Guest

    It must vary by company and area, then. In my area, with AAA, the
    Accord DX is the cheapest car to insure, period - regardless of
    manufacturer. The LX and EX are higher, and the Civics are higher than
    either of those, then the Civic Si is the worst at about 3x as much as
    the Accord DX..

    -Sonarrat.
     
    sonarrat, Jun 4, 2005
    #23
  4. Jarrett Hurd

    Scott Guest

    Regarding insurance, here in Ontario my 94 Accord EX is rated to be at
    increased
    risk for theft, apparently one of the most popular stolen vehicles in
    North
    America, and this is apparently factored in with my rate. Not sure if
    this
    applys to the newer Accords.
     
    Scott, Jun 5, 2005
    #24
  5. Jarrett Hurd

    L Alpert Guest

    I just noted that they have a "violation point" on the Civic for some
    reason. Last year, the Civic was about 11% higher. I suspect it is because
    the other two have front side curtain airbags.

    Now, to call the insurance company to see what gives on this violation
    point!
     
    L Alpert, Jun 5, 2005
    #25
  6. Jarrett Hurd

    L Alpert Guest

    The programmable keys/anti-theft/alarm may make a difference. It will at
    least keep honest people honest.
     
    L Alpert, Jun 5, 2005
    #26
  7. Jarrett Hurd

    Bubba Guest

    I think if you look you are apt to find that all auto insurance policies
    are "experience-rated" to a great extent. The cost of the vehicle bears
    some relationship to what you pay for insurance, but it's not the only
    factor.

    The rating includes (among other things)
    1) the percentage of accident claims involving *that* model
    2) the average cost to repair *that* model - example, it might be a cheap
    car but have an expensive front bumper or radiator
    3) the average cost to "replace" it (here's where the value figures into
    the insurance equation)
    4) vehicle theft history of *that* specific model (how often is this model
    stolen compared to other cars)
    5) Average ownership demographics (is it a young person's car?)
    6) claim history demographics (do you live in a bad neighborhood?)
    6) credit score of the owner (very important)
    7) driving record of the principal operator (except on parent's policy)
    8) claims history of the policyowner (kids accidents will hurt you here)
    9) academic record (good students qualify for 10% discount)
    etc.
     
    Bubba, Jun 5, 2005
    #27
  8. Jarrett Hurd

    Bubba Guest

    Nonsense. "There's no such thing as keeping honest people honest." That's
    a very tired old cliche.

    Auto theft is a crime of opportunity, perpetrated by thieves. If the
    vehicle is parked outside at night or parked in an open-access lot (mall
    lot or park-n-ride lot, grocery store lot, your doctor's office lot, etc),
    it's likely to get stolen. Anti-theft devices only thwart the unskilled
    auto thief. A well-skilled thief knows exactly how to bypass every one of
    these devices in a matter of seconds and can steal -any car- he wants to
    steal. All he needs is the chance (opportunity). More bold/brazen car
    thieves who want a specific car badly enough will even hijack you while
    you're in the car and stopped at an intersection. When someone sticks a
    gun in your face, what are you going to do? Can't start it? No problem,
    legitimate tow truck operators aren't the only ones who have tow trucks.

    Devices like "Lo Jack" can very often recover your car or locate it
    quickly, but usually *not* before damage, often substantial, has been
    done. If they want the wheels or air bags, consider them gone, Lo Jack or
    not. Here again, wheel locks only thwart the common thief. The pro will
    have the tools to have them off in a matter of seconds.
     
    Bubba, Jun 5, 2005
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  9. Jarrett Hurd

    L Alpert Guest

    Considering nothing has changed from last year to this year along these
    lines, and the actual rates on the other two cars dropped slightly and the
    Civic went up 50%, I believe there is some erronious information that they
    are using.
     
    L Alpert, Jun 5, 2005
    #29
  10. It's true nothing is 100%, but the idea is to discourage the vast numbers of
    16yr olds who are looking for an easy mark. The pros seem to favor tow
    trucks, and for those the best defense is to turn your wheels sharply and/or
    back into the space and set the parking brake (if you are that concerned) to
    make your car less attractive. Noise-making alarms with motion, proximity
    and glass-breakage sensors will do a lot for reducing air bag theft. For
    each model there are things to prevent HID theft. It's all a matter of how
    much you want to do and pay for protection.

    The professionals don't like to take risks, and all those things are risks
    for the various types of thefts. Amateurs are lazy and would rather go to a
    car that is easier to steal. Vandals don't care either way and can do
    extensive damage. Just pay your money and take your choice.

    BTW - my son had a carbureted Subaru and he put a concealed kill switch on
    the electric fuel pump. If a carjacker had confronted him, he could catch
    the switch on the way out and the bad guy would never have known - the
    engine will still idle for several seconds. My son would have been away
    clear by the time the evildoer figured out the car didn't just happen to
    stall in traffic. I bet there is an equivalent for more modern cars
    available.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Jun 5, 2005
    #30
  11. Jarrett Hurd

    Jarrett Hurd Guest

    that sounds right


     
    Jarrett Hurd, Jun 5, 2005
    #31
  12. Jarrett Hurd

    Jarrett Hurd Guest

    so a civic 2001 is has more room? wut year and up is better for a accord or
    civic, atleast
     
    Jarrett Hurd, Jun 5, 2005
    #32
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