Adding motor oil to engine

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Sanjay Punjab, Jul 4, 2004.

  1. My accord with 130k is using between 1/4-1/2 quart of oil a month.
    I was told by many that engines with this age typically do require a
    top-off each month of motor oil. Is there some type of gadget that you
    can attach to the top of the oil bottle to make measuring a bit
    easier? Often I have to add a little oil, then run the engine a bit
    and then check the dipstick again and repeat to get the oil level to a
    desired level again. Just want to save some time
     
    Sanjay Punjab, Jul 4, 2004
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    Bill Guest

    Why would you have to run the engine a bit to check the oil? That's about
    the worst thing to do when trying to get an accurate reading on the
    dipstick!
     
    Bill, Jul 4, 2004
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    Julie P. Guest

    usually the space on the dipstick between "add" and "full" represents one
    quart. So what I do is estimate. If the dipstick says it is 4/10th quarts
    low, and 1/10th of a quart equals 3.2 oz (a full quart is 32 oz.), I take
    0.4 times 3.2 oz, and get 12.8 oz. which I round off to 13 oz. On the side
    of the quart there is a scale in ounces. So I take 32 minus 13 and get 19.
    So when the I think I have hit about 19 oz, I stop and check the oil quart.
    If you are off a little bit, it doesn't matter. Just don't go below the
    "add" line.
     
    Julie P., Jul 4, 2004
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    Rick Colombo Guest

    There's nothing wrong with the reply below, but IMHO, you don't need to
    add oil until you are one full Qt low. So I just wait until I get to
    the "add" line, then add 1qt. Now, if I was planning a long trip and I
    wanted to start off "full", then I would do the estimate thing described
    below, I just wouldn't do this say every saturday rain or shine. -PapaRick

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    Rick Colombo, Jul 4, 2004
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    SoCalMike Guest

    wait 2 mos, add a whole quart
     
    SoCalMike, Jul 4, 2004
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  6. You don't need to run the engine - IMO the spec for checking hot after
    allowing a few minutes for drainback is just a convenience for that...
    checking while still hot. You'll get about the same reading on the
    dipstick if you check cold, i.e. with full drainback, which is more
    convenient for the DIYer.

    You don't have to be that accurate - when I see the level has gone below
    1/2 way between the max & min marks, I add 1/2 quart - easily seen from the
    marks on the side of the bottle. If you go on a long trip shove a bottle
    of oil in the trunk.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jul 4, 2004
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    « Paul » Guest

    If you've done it more than about 3 times, you should have a pretty good
    idea how much oil to add.
    Why do you run the engine?
     
    « Paul », Jul 4, 2004
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    pars Guest

    Some times, the gas station will have those disposable paper funnels. I
    usually grab a few for future use.

    Pars
     
    pars, Jul 5, 2004
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    Rudy Hiebert Guest

    The dip stick's markings, "Add" & "Full" give you enough margin to
    allow the 1/4 qrt. to be enough. Even if the level is not to the
    "Full" mark, you're better off if it's not more than full.
    The Amsoil container I use has a strip that lets you see how much of
    the bottle is left after a top-up.
     
    Rudy Hiebert, Jul 5, 2004
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    Mike Romain Guest

    You are very likely to ruin your engine doing that.

    Overfilling an engine is the worst thing you should do and you 'are'
    overfilling it.

    The oil should be checked cold in the morning before you drive it. When
    it gets down to the 'add' mark, you then put in a full quart. It does
    not need oil in between. If it did, the oil companies would sell the
    oil in a container with a window like 2 stroke oil is sold.

    Mike
    86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
    88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
     
    Mike Romain, Jul 5, 2004
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    Dick C Guest

    Sanjay Punjab wrote in rec.autos.misc
    The proper way to check oil is to do it when the engine has been
    shut off for several minutes, at a minimum. 20 or thirty minutes
    is better. This ensures that all the oil has run back into the
    pan. Running the engine and then checking it moves the oil up into
    the various engine parts, and the oil level will look lower than
    it really is. Adding oil at this point will cause you to overfill
    the engine, which can lead to excess oil consumption, and possibly
    blown seals.
    Also, the add mark on the dipstick indicates that the oil is one
    quart low, depending upon the shape of the oil pan, the distance
    between the marks may not be linear. Ergo, the half way point may
    or may not indicate 1/2 quart. Do not add oil until the level is
    at the add mark. And check it only after the engine has been
    shut off for several minutes.
    The engine does not need to be warm to check the oil either. You
    can go out in the morning and check it before you go to work.


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    Dick C, Jul 5, 2004
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    Julie P. Guest


    ok, thanks for this correction. I just assumed the dipstick was
    proportional. Although for my car, it does appear pretty proportional as I
    sometimes verify the level a while after I have refilled it with less than a
    quart. I do not like waiting until it is at the "add" line, since I may
    forget to add it then. I'd rather add it beforehand to avoid the possibility
    of going below the "add" line.
     
    Julie P., Jul 5, 2004
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    Dick C Guest

    Julie P. wrote in rec.autos.tech
    Checking and adding oil the way you do is a sure fire way to overfill
    the car. It is best to set up a schedule, and check all fluids at
    the same time. Set aside one day a week, perhaps Saturday or Sunday
    morning. Spend about 5 or 10 minutes of quality time under the hood.
    If you go on a trip, then whenever you stop for gas, check the oil after
    you fill the tank.
    One othe thing, you should only check the fluid in an automatic with
    the engine warm and running, so it is the only fluid that you will
    have to do anything special to check.

    --
    Dick #1349
    "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
    safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
    ~Benjamin Franklin

    Home Page: dickcr.iwarp.com
    email:
     
    Dick C, Jul 6, 2004
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    Bill Guest

    Huh?
    My misc. bottles of Havoline, valvoline, Chevron Supreme, Mobil 1 and
    Albertsons (I was desperate one morning out on the road) ALL have the
    "window" and ALL are 4 stroke oils!
     
    Bill, Jul 6, 2004
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    Steve Guest


    Going a bit below the "add" line doesn't hurt anything. Its better than
    over-filling and causing the oil to get aereated by the crankshaft.

    Its not an exact measurement or fill requirement anyway. You're making
    it harder than it needs to be.
     
    Steve, Jul 6, 2004
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    Mike Romain Guest

    Really, with the measurements on the window too?

    I am in Canada, I guess the packaging is different or I have never
    noticed. I have never seen any of the brands you are talking about
    either.

    Even the 4L jugs I get don't have a window and 'they' could actually use
    it!

    Mike
    86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
    88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
     
    Mike Romain, Jul 6, 2004
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    Sean Dinh Guest

    Don't waste your time adding oil regularly. Do what I do all the time,
    adding a quart when the oil light lit during cornering.
     
    Sean Dinh, Jul 7, 2004
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    Mike Romain Guest

    What, did some car salesman teach you that little 'trick' or something.
    He only wants to sell you a new car when you blow the motor and you
    'will' blow the motor driving like that.

    If you are running that close to the pump sucking air (that is what the
    red light means) the second the red light comes on on a flat because you
    haven't taken any turns lately, the engine will be dead.

    When that red engine light comes on, you must shut down the engine. If
    you continue even a mile, your engine will be blown.

    Mike
    86/00 CJ7 Laredo, 33x9.5 BFG Muds, 'glass nose to tail in '00
    88 Cherokee 235 BFG AT's
     
    Mike Romain, Jul 7, 2004
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    JimV Guest

    Troll...
     
    JimV, Jul 7, 2004
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  20. Hmm, reminds me of when I had my old Beetle - even with the oil at the max
    mark, it was possible to get around a corner fast enough to starve the oil
    pump.

    Rgds, George Macdonald

    "Just because they're paranoid doesn't mean you're not psychotic" - Who, me??
     
    George Macdonald, Jul 8, 2004
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