ADDITIVES....GOOD or BAD???

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Delpie, Dec 3, 2003.

  1. Delpie

    Delpie Guest

    How harmful are the additives that are sold to clean fuel injecters and the
    like..

    I have a 1994 Integra with 209,000 miles and it still purrs and runs great.
    For about a year I have a cold weather reving problem that lasts for about 1-2
    minutes upon startup and when it has been sitting for a couple of hours. It
    revs from 1400 RPM to 2000RPM rapidly until it warms up and then settles down
    to a "normal" idle...about 800RPM.
    My mechanic said to try a few tanks of premium gas( I have always used regular)
    and I am on my second tank and upon startup it is getting better, but after
    sitting for a couple hours I still get the reving problem!....In case this does
    not work I was considering a "cleaning additive " of some type.

    Any thoughts???
     
    Delpie, Dec 3, 2003
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  2. Delpie

    JR Lomas Guest

    No fuel additive or "better gas" is going to make your problem go away.
    I suspect you have a vacuum leak somewhere in your system. What is
    happening is that when the car is cold, whatever line or gasket running to
    the intake manifold or sealing it, respectively, is worn out. As the car
    heats
    up the hose or gasket expands sealing the leak.
    If you hook a pressure gauge to one of the vacuum lines you can verify
    it is a indeed a vacuum leak very easily.
    You will see your gauge wonder up and down as
    your car moves from 1400-2000 RPMs.
    If this is the case then do the following.
    To solve the problem, first inspect, and replace if necessary, all hoses
    leading to the intake manifold. Replace the PCV valve (cheap $2.49
    at any autoparts store).
    Provided all the hoses are good and you still have the problem, get a
    new intake gasket from NAPA (just bought one the other day for $16)
    and replace it. If that still doesn't solve the problem, then you will have
    to separate the throttle body from the manifold and replace the gasket
    (about $5) that seals the manifold the throttle body.
    Again I doubt you will have to do all this things, but if you do as you
    can see, if you do all the work yourself it is very cheap (under $50).
    Now, if this still doesn't solve your problem:
    pull out the injectors and replace the O-rings around then. Since they
    are plugged directly to the manifold they could be causing a vacuum
    leak.

    I hope the advice helps, keep us posted. So many people receive advice
    and never bother to post the solution to their problem once they
    actually fix it. Thank you to those who do.

    - JR
     
    JR Lomas, Dec 3, 2003
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  3. Delpie

    Rich Long Guest

    JR,

    I've found a very quick way to "isolate" and "locate" a vacuum leak without
    replacing hoses, o rings, etc.

    Get a can of carb claaner with the narrow sprayer tube. With the engine
    idling, spray at all hose connections, fuel injector mounts, etc. If a leak
    is found, you will note a sudden stumbling or reduction of rpm's.

    Replace the defective part......

    Good luck,

    Rich
     
    Rich Long, Dec 3, 2003
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  4. Delpie

    DrPimpDaddi Guest

    DO NOT USE ANY ADDITIVES!!!!

    I used it once on my older Honda (which was running great) and it stalled on
    the freeway. The fuel filters got clogged because of it.




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    I do not killfile nor use do-not-call lists.
     
    DrPimpDaddi, Dec 3, 2003
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  5. Hey, Pimpi, just because you cheapened out and used a junk fuel system
    cleaner doesn't mean they're all junk.

    Techron by Chevron is great stuff, highly recommended--by professionals,
    even.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Dec 3, 2003
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  6. Delpie

    DrPimpDaddi Guest

    Techron by Chevron is great stuff, highly recommended--by professionals,
    Yes, a professional troll, who has made it his life mission to strand everyone
    in here by giving false advice. LOL!




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    I do not killfile nor use do-not-call lists.
     
    DrPimpDaddi, Dec 3, 2003
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  7. Delpie

    TomP Guest

    Despite what the DrPimpDaddi says about Elmo P. Shangnasty; Shangnasty is
    correct about Chevron Techron. And the best way to administer Techron is to run a
    few full tank fulls of Chevron Supreme . Of course you can also purchase the
    additive in a bottle from any Chevron station.

    http://www.chevron.ca/ProductsServices/Retail/FuelSystemCleaner.htm

    No, I don't work for Chevron, either.

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    TomP, Dec 6, 2003
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  8. Delpie

    Bror Jace Guest

    I still think the best additive to try first is isopropyl alcohol.

    If the problem above is NOT a vacuum leak, it might be moisture in the
    fuel.

    Try a bottle of isopropyl drygas available just about everywhere for
    $1 per bottle.

    I also like Red Line SI-1 and Schaeffer Neutra 131 in addition to the
    Chevron Techron already mentioned:

    http://www.schaefferoil.com/data/131.html

    http://redlineoil.com/redlineoil/si1ti.htm

    --- Bror Jace
     
    Bror Jace, Dec 8, 2003
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