Adjusting 1986 Accord Carburator

Discussion in 'Accord' started by wpapps, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. wpapps

    wpapps Guest

    Does anyone know of a web site or have information available for the
    proper sequence of adjusing all the different idle adjusting screws
    on the 1986-89 Accord carburator?
    I cleaned the carburator (which was full of dissolved filter
    material) and repaired all the broken diaphragms attached to the
    carburator, but am at a loss how to correctly adjust all the idle
    adjustments that this carburator has.

    TIA
    Bill
     
    wpapps, Jun 17, 2006
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    Elle Guest

    You might try the free online Accord manual at
    www.autozone.com.

    The Prelude factory service manual at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html might also be
    helpful.
     
    Elle, Jun 17, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    To set the fuel mixture manually, you'll need to perform a propane boost
    test. The tool distributors make an expensive special tool for this but you
    don't need it. Just get a regular propane torch and remove the flame tip.
    Now, attach a section of plastic tubing about 5 feet long. Attach a
    tachometer, and with the car running, remove the top of the air cleaner and
    slowly feed propane into the primary barrel of the carburetor, i.e., open
    the torch's valve slowly and continue until the idle peaks out (but stop if
    it's more than 500 rpm you may need to adjust the idle mixture screw before
    proceeding). You should get an idle boost of about 100 rpm when the fuel
    mixture is set correctly. Adjust the idle mixture screw so that you get the
    correct amount of boost. Afterwards, set the idle speed screw to the specs
    on the underhood sticker, usually about 800-850 rpm for a car with a manual
    transmission, and recheck the timing.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 18, 2006
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    Matt Ion Guest

    That's IF you have a carb with a idle-mixture adjustment screw. Some
    models don't have it.
     
    Matt Ion, Jun 19, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    I've never seen a Honda carburetor without a mixture screw. However, on
    many models, Honda installed a metal guard type plug over the mixture
    screw. The mixture screw can still be accessed but the plug has to be
    removed first and this usually requires removing the carburetor since the
    screw is at the bottom back end of the carburetor next to the firewall.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 19, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    I forgot to mention that the first step is usually to set the float height.
    There should be a window on the side of the carburetor with a black dot at
    the center. The float height adjustment is correct when the fuel level is
    at the center of the black dot in the window.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 19, 2006
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  7. wpapps

    wpapps Guest


    All the information was terrific, I will never buy a carburated engine
    again. FI is much simpler to repair due to the fewer parts.
    Thanks again

    Bill
     
    wpapps, Jun 19, 2006
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    Matt Ion Guest

    That could be why I've never found it... but then I've never seen any
    mention of it in any shop manuals either. The consensus on another
    board is that mixture is controlled by the "ECU" (such as it is) and
    isn't user-adjustable on the third-gen Accords.
     
    Matt Ion, Jun 19, 2006
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    Eric Guest

    The procedure is described in the factory service manual from Helm. It's on
    page 11-22 in my copy. You can get one from http://www.helminc.com. It is
    not surprising that other manuals, such as Haynes or Chilton, do not include
    the necessary level of detail that is found in the official factory service
    manual from Helm.
    While it is true that Honda used feedback carburetors for fuel control under
    different driving conditions, the base fuel mixture is set via the screw at
    the back of the carburetor. The factory service manual actually specs a
    propane boost of 60 +/- 20 rpm. However, a boost in the range of 75 to 100
    should be fine as per my prior post. When servicing a Honda carburetor,
    I've found that it's best to follow the directions which are included in
    Honda's factory top clean kit. This kit was put together many years ago by
    a dealer Honda tech who developed a relatively fast and easy way to service
    Honda carburetors without removing the carburetor from the manifold. The
    kit even includes a replacement o-ring and washer for the idle mixture
    screw. The only problem is that you need to remove the carburetor in order
    to access the screw on cars with the mixture screw cap. The top clean kit
    also does not include floats which must be purchased separately if needed.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jun 20, 2006
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