And yet even more on the legendary Honda failing transmissions--Honda won't let you buy a new one on

read the fine print - they're only "certified" for the "window" that's
left over from the warranty - it doesn't extend beyond the original.
dealers taking up the slack on what /is/ built in to the design life.[/QUOTE]

Ah, so they don't do what Honda does.

 

read the fine print - they're only "certified" for the "window" that's
left over from the warranty - it doesn't extend beyond the original.
dealers taking up the slack on what /is/ built in to the design life.[/QUOTE]

Ah, so they don't do what Honda does.

 

If a manufacturer cannot produce an automatic good for at least 150K
miles, his product is not worth looking at.

JT

 

If a manufacturer cannot produce an automatic good for at least 150K
miles, his product is not worth looking at.

JT

 

Years ago when I used to ride motorbikes (45+) it was said that it's no
good having a good forth gear, if the rest of the box can't cope. (In
those days manufacturers used rubbish metal for all the gears except top
as a cost saving.)

 

Years ago when I used to ride motorbikes (45+) it was said that it's no
good having a good forth gear, if the rest of the box can't cope. (In
those days manufacturers used rubbish metal for all the gears except top
as a cost saving.)

 

Can't agree. I've got a LONG list of repairs the car needed not to
mention the inadequate cooling system when the A/C was working in very
hot temps. The car was far from bullet proof; although the engine/
manual trans. required no work over 20+ years. I replaced/repaired CV
joints, brake calipers (which seized), brake master cylinder, EGR,
alternator, O2 sensors, radio, headlight switch, master/slave clutch
cylinders and a whole bunch more. I owned a Toyota Sienna for 12
years, 250K miles, all overlapping the Legend. The Sienna needed O2
sensors and a sliding door latch other than routine maintenance items.
None of the crap that failed on the Legend. Not to mention A/C that
blew frosty air even on the hottest day.

Honda brakes still suck.
True, Honda shitboxes of that era got good mpg but they were flimsy
and torqueless. My '87 Integra crushed like a soda can when it was
rear ended on the Washington beltway.

But so easy and cheap to fix.

Nope. I had a '66 Chevy that was nearly as reliable as my '98 Sienna.
It need more repair work but was very reliable over 180K miles.

So I think you need to look beyond Honda 'cause Honda peaked in the
early '90s and that has nothing to do with the EPA.

 

Can't agree. I've got a LONG list of repairs the car needed not to
mention the inadequate cooling system when the A/C was working in very
hot temps. The car was far from bullet proof; although the engine/
manual trans. required no work over 20+ years. I replaced/repaired CV
joints, brake calipers (which seized), brake master cylinder, EGR,
alternator, O2 sensors, radio, headlight switch, master/slave clutch
cylinders and a whole bunch more. I owned a Toyota Sienna for 12
years, 250K miles, all overlapping the Legend. The Sienna needed O2
sensors and a sliding door latch other than routine maintenance items.
None of the crap that failed on the Legend. Not to mention A/C that
blew frosty air even on the hottest day.

Honda brakes still suck.
True, Honda shitboxes of that era got good mpg but they were flimsy
and torqueless. My '87 Integra crushed like a soda can when it was
rear ended on the Washington beltway.

But so easy and cheap to fix.

Nope. I had a '66 Chevy that was nearly as reliable as my '98 Sienna.
It need more repair work but was very reliable over 180K miles.

So I think you need to look beyond Honda 'cause Honda peaked in the
early '90s and that has nothing to do with the EPA.