Anyone have any luck repair rear window defroster?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Exeter, Jan 24, 2004.

  1. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    I have a 98 Civic and the rear window defroster has a couple of
    "stripes" that don't work. It looks like they've been scratched in a few
    places.

    Has anyone successfully repaired something like that? I was looking at a
    product called "Frost Fighter" which is basically a conductive glue that
    you apply over the breaks.

    I called Honda and they said they would have to replace the whole rear
    window, which seems a little excessive.

    Here's the link for Frost Fighter:

    http://www.frostfighter.com/
     
    Exeter, Jan 24, 2004
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  2. Exeter

    Eric Guest

    You could also clean the break areas thoroughly with isopropanol and then
    use one of those Circuit Writer conductive ink pens. They contain a silver
    particle based ink which dries in a few minutes. I've used it to
    successfully repair circuit boards though it does take some practice to get
    the compound to flow as you want it to.

    The pens can be bought online for about $10 from http://www.cyberguys.com.
    If you have a Frys store nearby then you can buy one there as well.

    I should note though that I have not used one of these pens on a defroster
    grid.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Jan 24, 2004
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  3. Exeter

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Typical Honda/Acura practice,they like to sell those overpriced parts.
    I believe most auto parts stores will have repair kits with conductive
    paint for fixing defroster grids.YMMV.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 24, 2004
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  4. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    I called the local AutoZone and O'Reilly's, neither of them have the
    repair kits.
     
    Exeter, Jan 24, 2004
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  5. Exeter

    Woody Guest

    Check with some local glass repair shops. Also do a google search.
     
    Woody, Jan 24, 2004
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  6. Exeter

    Chris Guest

    I could see Honda wanting to replace to whole window. That's one thing that
    irritates me about Honda dealerships (& I've dealt with about 6 different
    ones during my days as a Honda owner); they always seem to select the
    easiest & most expensive option for repair! Perhaps we could all partner
    together to have a franchise that puts the customer first!
    -chris
     
    Chris, Jan 24, 2004
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  7. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    I ended up ordering "Frost Fighter" off of the internet. Sounds easy
    enough to do the repair.

    http://www.frostfighter.com/
     
    Exeter, Jan 24, 2004
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  8. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    Yep, definitely overkill.
     
    Exeter, Jan 24, 2004
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  9. Exeter

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Maybe I should have said the auto parts stores probably carry *generic*
    defroster repair kits,not specifically the "frostfighter" brand kits.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 25, 2004
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  10. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    I didn't give them any specific brand names, I just asked if they had
    anything to repair rear window defrosters, neither of them did.
     
    Exeter, Jan 25, 2004
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    RWB Guest

    I have repaired a defroster trace in a Honda several years ago. The repair
    was easy; locating the spot to repair took the time. I think that the kit
    was made by Permatex. I would suggest checking at a NAPA parts store.
     
    RWB, Jan 27, 2004
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  12. Exeter

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I would be leery of phoning a auto parts store to ask for items,as their
    competence in knowing about the RIGHT part is extremely variable.I called
    the local PepBoys recently for a thermostat for my Integra GSR,and they
    said they had them,but they did NOT have the right one when I looked on the
    shelves.
    Had one (180 degF)for the regular Integra,but not the GSR;that uses a 195
    degF thermostat.

    Also,at a Home Depot,I was looking for a specific halogen lamp,and asked
    the clerk for help finding it,and he said they didn't have one.Well,I
    persisted in looking myself,and found the lamp on a upper shelf.

    Unless you have a well-known reliable parts clerk,they may not know just
    what stock they DO have.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 27, 2004
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  13. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    I went ahead and ordered a kit on line. Upon further inspection, it
    looks like the 2 damaged traces are worse than I thought. There are
    several sections in which the damage appears to be greater than 4
    inches, which is the supposed limit for the frost fighter kit that I
    ordered. The damaged traces aren't completely missing, but you can see
    some discoloration where part of the trace has been scratched off. I
    guess I'll just have to try the repair and see if it works.
     
    Exeter, Jan 27, 2004
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  14. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    True, when I called, I was put on hold for 10 minutes and then someone
    else picked up the phone and asked what I wanted. I told them what I was
    holding for, waited another 5 minutes for them to say "Uh, we don't have
    any." At least they didn't hang up on me.
     
    Exeter, Jan 27, 2004
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    you might try some of that blue masking tape to make a mask to get
    nice,even straight lies if you try to bridge the longer gaps.A strip of
    tape on either side of where you want the trace to go,then paint over
    it,then peel off the tape,leaving the trace.

    I haven't tried this,it's just an idea. YMMV.
     
    Jim Yanik, Jan 27, 2004
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  16. Exeter

    Exeter Guest

    Good idea, I'll give it a try.
     
    Exeter, Jan 27, 2004
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    Aron Guest

    Isn't that stuff made to conduct well? That might not be such a good idea
    if the area to be repaired is large. If it conducts too much it will fry
    what is left on the window or something else.
     
    Aron, Feb 4, 2004
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