Are the brake shims absolutely necessary?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Headknocker via CarKB.com, Apr 7, 2006.

  1. I'm asking because the shims on my old trusty '88 Accord are kinda shot.

    Thanks.
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, Apr 7, 2006
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  2. I have heard that without the shims the brakes squeal like a stuck pig.
    I found that dealer price is about same as mail order when you add
    shipping.

    Bob
     
    Apple Dumpling, Apr 7, 2006
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  3. Thanks. I asked but I've been driving around without the shims for around
    three weeks. For the record, they don't squeak at all but that may be due to
    applying anti-squeal compound to the the back of them.

    I just never understood the reason for them although I always made sure to
    use them when I changed the pads.
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, Apr 7, 2006
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  4. Headknocker via CarKB.com

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Ya think the manufacturer would go to the expense of
    making,stocking,installing shims if they could just use anti-squeal
    compound?
    Do you feel comfortable driving around with parts missing from your BRAKES?
    (I wouldn't)

    Maybe you could get a set of shims cheaper at a junkyard??
     
    Jim Yanik, Apr 8, 2006
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  5. I understand that ,Jim. That wasn't my question which you didn't bother to
    answer. What's their purpose? I'm gonna get new shims. I certainly didn't
    intend to drive around without them for any length of time.
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, Apr 8, 2006
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  6. Headknocker via CarKB.com

    Eric Guest

    The stock Honda shims are usually coated with teflon. When they're used
    with the stock Molykote M77 grease (Honda's anti-squeal compound), there's
    usually no risk of a comeback with noisy brakes. Aftermarket shims
    sometimes have a problematic fit and sometimes the aftermarket brake pads
    don't have the correct pins which help to hold the shims in place. Gluing
    aftermarket shims to aftermarket pads with the sticky silencer spray can
    sometimes work, however, I've had bad luck with the shims sliding down so I
    just removed them. I currently have no shims on the front brakes and
    haven't noticed a problem. Note that I do use the stock Molykote M77
    silencer grease on the pad baking plates.

    Eric
     
    Eric, Apr 8, 2006
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  7. Thanks,Eric :)
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, Apr 8, 2006
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