Armor All on dashboard: Good or bad?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by J. Perry, Feb 15, 2004.

  1. J. Perry

    J. Perry Guest

    One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
    people to avoid applying Armor All Protectant to their cars' dashboards. He
    says that instead of preventing cracks in a car's dashboard it will actually
    cause them. I've used Armor All on my vehicles' dashboards for 27 years and
    have yet to experience a single crack in any of them to date. In fact, they
    all looked like new when I sold or traded them. The dashboard on one of my
    cars, a 1990 Nissan 300ZX that I still own, looks like new to this day.
    There isn't the first indication that any cracking is about to occur within
    any region of the car's dashboard. Or any other plastic parts that were
    protected with Armor All shortly after I purchased the car. Have any of you
    guys experienced dashboard cracking with your Honda, or other type of
    vehicle, that you actually believe was caused by a protectant rather than
    neglect from a previous owner or something? J. Perry
     
    J. Perry, Feb 15, 2004
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    I nearly lost a cell phone out the window after using a protectant. Good
    thing I saw it start sliding and lunged for it ! :)


    'Curly'

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    'Curly Q. Links', Feb 15, 2004
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    L Alpert Guest

    Just avoid putting it on the steering wheel.
     
    L Alpert, Feb 15, 2004
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    E. Meyer Guest

    I've never had a dashboard crack with or without Armor All. I did have to
    get a dashboard rug for a Nissan 240sx because the Armor All made it shine
    instead of the original dull finish. As it turned out, the dullness was
    necessary. Glare from the shiny dash reflecting onto the windshield made
    the car all but undrivable in the day time. If you are going to use Armor
    All, make sure your dash isn't designed to be intentionally dull (or use the
    dull finish version of Armor All).
     
    E. Meyer, Feb 15, 2004
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    Exeter Guest

    Well, who are you going to believe, your young engineer or your own
    experience???? Did you really need to ask that question?
     
    Exeter, Feb 15, 2004
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    Brian Smith Guest

    So, which is older, your personal experience with the product, or the young
    engineer? Besides, if you have not had any bad experiences, using this
    product, why even consider the breeze coming out of your co-workers mouth?
     
    Brian Smith, Feb 15, 2004
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    Anon Guest

    I do believe that a Saturn I used to own actually stated in the owners
    manual, not to use protectents on the dash. I think it stated it would
    remove a facotry coating on the dash? I don't have the car anymore, so
    someone out there with a late 90's Saturn might be able to verify.
     
    Anon, Feb 16, 2004
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    bearman Guest

    I have not seen any cracking in my dashboards using Armor All.

    I do know one place you should NOT use Armor All and that's on a motorcycle
    banana seat. Tried it once. Looked really nice but when I accelerated the
    bike, I almost slid backwards off the seat.

    Bearman
     
    bearman, Feb 16, 2004
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    null_pointer Guest

    One of the young engineers in my department at work is regularly telling
    When I bought a BMW motorcycle, I was told by several people at the
    dealer NOT to put ArmorAll on the various rubber boots and covers
    because they would deteriorate. Instead, I have been using silicone
    spray since it's availibility for consumer use (early 70's I believe)
    I use it on CV joint boots, muffler hangers, door seals, hoses, brake
    fluid resevoir caps, etc. When I use it on the dash, I spray it onto
    a cloth and let any solvent evaporate before applying. I never had any
    problem with solvent damage, but prefer to err on the side of safety.

    P.S. DO NOT put any slippery protectant on a motorcycle seat;
    I discovered this the hard way......
     
    null_pointer, Feb 16, 2004
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    L Alpert Guest

    Hehe, that's worse than the steering wheel.....
     
    L Alpert, Feb 16, 2004
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    electricked Guest

    Some cars already have some type of protective coating. I'm pretty sure it's
    okay to put protective coating once the old one worns out, and it will start
    deteriorating after a while under sun and moist conditions. Just don't put
    it on anything that requires a good grips such as steering wheel, tires,
    driving belts, etc. The protective coating is slippery, especially All
    Armor. Other than that, it cleans and protects very well from personal
    experience.

    This type of questions are great, even if you might know the answer prior to
    asking. A lot of people have these same questions so I'm sure it will be of
    some use to the less experienced.

    --Viktor
     
    electricked, Feb 16, 2004
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    electricked Guest

    I can only imagine your discoveries ;)
     
    electricked, Feb 16, 2004
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    electricked Guest

    If friction is required, don't use protectants since they add a layer of
    slippery chemicals. There are special cleaning kits that let you clean the
    dirt and still keep the grip on the surface.

    --Viktor
     
    electricked, Feb 16, 2004
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    check your silicone spray,it may contain petroleum products,too.
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 16, 2004
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    The reason the plastic cracks is that the plasticizers in the plastic get
    baked out by heat(the haze on your windows is plasticizers[or cig smoke]).
    Do you think a surface application of ArmorAll is going to replace the
    baked-out plasticizers?
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 16, 2004
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    mrdancer Guest

    they

    I've never heard of or experienced Armor All causing cracks in a car's
    dashboard, but apparently it can give off fumes that puts a haze on the
    inside of your windshield.

    I use Mother's (or is it Meguiars?) vinyl protectant instead.... gives it a
    nice citrus-y smell.
     
    mrdancer, Feb 16, 2004
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    L Alpert Guest

    The leeching of the plasticizers is dependent on the polymer and their
    specific plasticizers. Flexible PVC is probably the most widely know for
    it's use of DOP, DEHP and now DIHP is also being looked at by the EPA.

    Here is some insight for polymers
    http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/index.htm

    As well, here is a study of PVC plasticizer loss

    http://www.geocheminc.com/pvcfaqplasticizers1.htm

    Newer dashboards are being made with a PVC ABS blend that reduces but does
    not eliminate the use of plasticizers

    http://www.psrc.usm.edu/macrog/work/dash.htm

    Of course, none of this answers the question of "Is Armor All good to use on
    the dashboard?". I have never taken the time to study the ingredients of
    the product and how they interact with each other and how it all interacts
    with different polymers. If the design of dashboards have changed such as
    with the ABS being added in, Armor All should have changed it's product
    accordingly to compensate and the appropriate warnings for it's non-use
    should be on the packaging (the "small print").
     
    L Alpert, Feb 16, 2004
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    Goal500k Guest

    The PhD polymer scientists where I work think its a good idea; they believe the plasticizers are being replaced. How long has non-shiny Armor-All been available? I have never heard of it, but will ask at my local carwash next visit.
     
    Goal500k, Feb 17, 2004
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    electricked Guest

    I seriously doubt the "replacement" theory but I'm pretty sure it lays a
    protective layer on top of the plastics.

    --Viktor

    believe the plasticizers are being replaced. How long has non-shiny
    Armor-All been available? I have never heard of it, but will ask at my
    local carwash next visit.
     
    electricked, Feb 17, 2004
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    realguy Guest


    That's the same thing I read years ago in another newsgroup. I used
    the stuff on a '77 Monte Carlo and eventually the dash did crack but I
    can't say it was or wasn't due to the Armor All so I guess I'm not
    able to answer your question conclusively. If I had to answer the
    question with a "yes or no" only, my "guess" would be yes (with only
    my gut instinct no scientific proof).

    If I had to re-decide whether to use it on my dashboard nowadays, I
    wouldn't take the chance. I think there are enough other products
    around to use and I suppose a damp cloth might work for just dirt /
    dust removal.
     
    realguy, Feb 18, 2004
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