ATF flush for 2000 Odyssey LX

Discussion in 'Odyssey' started by varkiliy_jar, Jul 8, 2004.

  1. varkiliy_jar

    varkiliy_jar Guest

    Hi.
    Just completed a regular ATF change. It gave up 3 qt and I put the
    same amount.
    ATF capacity is about 7.2 qt.
    The drain plug is at the bottom - and still only 3 qt. What kind of
    magic I have to do to flush.
    I have oil suction pump, but never used it and no clue from which
    side I can get all 7.2 qt.

    All kind of responses will be appreciated.

    Regards,
    vj
     
    varkiliy_jar, Jul 8, 2004
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  2. varkiliy_jar

    motsco_ _ Guest

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    Change it again next Saturday, and the Saturday after that too. Make
    sure it's warmed up when you remove the fill plug, then the drain plug.
    Then you're done. Don't use ANYTHING but Honda Z1 ATF.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 8, 2004
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  3. varkiliy_jar

    motsco_ _ Guest

    ================

    Change it again next Saturday, and the Saturday after that too. Make
    sure it's warmed up when you remove the fill plug, then the drain plug.
    Then you're done. Don't use ANYTHING but Honda Z1 ATF.

    'Curly'
     
    motsco_ _, Jul 8, 2004
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  4. I'm of the school that changing tranny oil without cleaning/replacing
    the screen/filter is akin to putting onn the same dirty socks after a
    bath. IOW, the pan should be pulled...
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Jul 8, 2004
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  5. I'm of the school that changing tranny oil without cleaning/replacing
    the screen/filter is akin to putting onn the same dirty socks after a
    bath. IOW, the pan should be pulled...
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Jul 8, 2004
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  6. varkiliy_jar

    Steve Lee Guest

    I found a shop that used a machine called TransTech or T-Tech (?) that
    flushes your ATF. I have a '03 Pilot and looks as though it uses
    about the same amount of ATF as yours.

    I took about 12 qt with me to the shop (Honda's OEM ATF). The
    technician filled the machine up with the new ATF and the machine then
    was hooked up to the cooler line connections and sucked out the old
    and dirty ATF and in went the new ATF.
     
    Steve Lee, Jul 8, 2004
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  7. varkiliy_jar

    Steve Lee Guest

    I found a shop that used a machine called TransTech or T-Tech (?) that
    flushes your ATF. I have a '03 Pilot and looks as though it uses
    about the same amount of ATF as yours.

    I took about 12 qt with me to the shop (Honda's OEM ATF). The
    technician filled the machine up with the new ATF and the machine then
    was hooked up to the cooler line connections and sucked out the old
    and dirty ATF and in went the new ATF.
     
    Steve Lee, Jul 8, 2004
    #7
  8. varkiliy_jar

    E. Meyer Guest

    Honda automatics generally do not have a removable bottom pan and there is
    no accessible screen/filter to clean or replace.
     
    E. Meyer, Jul 8, 2004
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  9. varkiliy_jar

    E. Meyer Guest

    Honda automatics generally do not have a removable bottom pan and there is
    no accessible screen/filter to clean or replace.
     
    E. Meyer, Jul 8, 2004
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  10. I will not profess real knowledge of Honda auto trannies but could this
    lack contribute to the relatively high rate of Honda tranny failures?
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Jul 9, 2004
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  11. I will not profess real knowledge of Honda auto trannies but could this
    lack contribute to the relatively high rate of Honda tranny failures?
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Jul 9, 2004
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  12. varkiliy_jar

    E. Meyer Guest

    Possibly. One of the failure modes that has caused warranty
    extensions/recalls involves clutches disintegrating and clogging the little
    (inaccessible) screens they have in the fluid passages. This then causing
    exciting behavior like slamming into 2nd gear without warning at 80 mph. I
    suspect there would be less chance of that happening if there was a filter
    in the pan (if it had a pan...). It would still disintegrate, but the
    failure mode probably wouldn't be as exciting.

    It does make for easy fluid changes though.
     
    E. Meyer, Jul 9, 2004
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  13. varkiliy_jar

    E. Meyer Guest

    Possibly. One of the failure modes that has caused warranty
    extensions/recalls involves clutches disintegrating and clogging the little
    (inaccessible) screens they have in the fluid passages. This then causing
    exciting behavior like slamming into 2nd gear without warning at 80 mph. I
    suspect there would be less chance of that happening if there was a filter
    in the pan (if it had a pan...). It would still disintegrate, but the
    failure mode probably wouldn't be as exciting.

    It does make for easy fluid changes though.
     
    E. Meyer, Jul 9, 2004
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  14. I guess, religious changing of the fluid is in order...

    <G>
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Jul 9, 2004
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  15. I guess, religious changing of the fluid is in order...

    <G>
     
    Grumpy au Contraire, Jul 9, 2004
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    Chip Stein Guest

    I found a shop that used a machine called TransTech or T-Tech (?) that
    honda has had a service bulletin out for years that states that trns
    flushers are bad for them. a honda automatic is unique in design,
    there are no bands or planetary gears, it's all wet clutch packs.
    i've seen them fail due to flushers, hope you have better luck.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Jul 9, 2004
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  17. varkiliy_jar

    Chip Stein Guest

    I found a shop that used a machine called TransTech or T-Tech (?) that
    honda has had a service bulletin out for years that states that trns
    flushers are bad for them. a honda automatic is unique in design,
    there are no bands or planetary gears, it's all wet clutch packs.
    i've seen them fail due to flushers, hope you have better luck.
    Chip
     
    Chip Stein, Jul 9, 2004
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  18. varkiliy_jar

    jim beam Guest

    "high rate" of failure??? my friends have over 360k on an 88 accord
    automatic. original transmission. i had a civic with 180k before i
    sold it. i wouldn't call those unreliable transmissions.
     
    jim beam, Jul 9, 2004
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  19. varkiliy_jar

    jim beam Guest

    "high rate" of failure??? my friends have over 360k on an 88 accord
    automatic. original transmission. i had a civic with 180k before i
    sold it. i wouldn't call those unreliable transmissions.
     
    jim beam, Jul 9, 2004
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  20. varkiliy_jar

    E. Meyer Guest

    Before the failures started showing up on the '02 Acura TL-S and the newer
    Odysseys, I think Honda automatics were pretty much bullet-proof. They seem
    to have problems beefing them up to handle the bigger V6 engines.
     
    E. Meyer, Jul 9, 2004
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