Bad alternator?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by RanMan, Apr 1, 2006.

  1. RanMan

    RanMan Guest

    Several months ago I noticed a distinct change in my engine noise, kind of a
    low whine.

    Took it to Honda and of course they couldn't hear it.

    This morning when I started the car the noise is louder and all the
    instrument panel lights stay on. It shows all the doors open, when they are
    not.

    Any ideas?

    PS I should have taken it to a different honda dealer in the first place.
     
    RanMan, Apr 1, 2006
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  2. RanMan

    Brian Smith Guest

    That's typical of pretty much any item that is doing something for the
    owner, when that item goes to the shop (whether it's a car, tv or toaster)
    Why do you say that? Have you experienced problems with the dealership you
    went to, if so why did you go there again?
     
    Brian Smith, Apr 1, 2006
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  3. RanMan

    Elle Guest

    What model and year of Honda?
    How many miles on it?
    Are you driving it now, with all the instrument lights
    staying on?
     
    Elle, Apr 1, 2006
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  4. RanMan

    RanMan Guest

    Brian,

    While I appreciate your comments, I fail to see the relevance.

    But anyway, this Honda dealer is the only one within 50 miles and I thought
    I would at least give them a try before making a long drive.
     
    RanMan, Apr 1, 2006
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  5. RanMan

    RanMan Guest

     
    RanMan, Apr 1, 2006
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  6. RanMan

    RanMan Guest

    1999 Honda Accord EXV6 with 69500 miles. New battery (4 months old)

    Yes I could drive it, it seems to run OK, except for the whine and the
    instrument cluster lights on.

    I am going to disconnect the battery as a first step and see what that does.

    Is there anything else to do when disconnecting the battery to delete all
    the settings or to reset everything, other than let it sit for a while
    before reconnecting the battery?
     
    RanMan, Apr 1, 2006
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  7. RanMan

    duckbill Guest

    I feel for you. The trick is to isolate the noise to make sure you know
    where the noise is coming from. This involves some work. Removing the
    accessory drive belts and running the engine can help. Useing an
    inexpensive mechanic's stethoscope can sometimes help pin down the
    problem. Lastly, I have found the AC idler pulley (tensioner)is "on its
    way out" on many Hondas. Good luck.
     
    duckbill, Apr 1, 2006
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  8. RanMan

    Elle Guest

    Sorry, just want to be very clear: The whine continues
    through all driving conditions, right? Does the noise change
    at all when you accelerate or decelerate? If so, how? Is it
    worse at cold startup? Better at warm start up?

    For reading any codes set off by this condition, see
    http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/faq.html, "Engine electrical
    and On-Board Diagnostics (OBD)" section. Also, note its
    cautions about resetting the Check Engine Light. (I know you
    say you have all instrument panel lights on; still, there
    are some caveats that seem applicable here, re resetting
    via disconnecting the battery.)

    A bad alternator should light only the charging system
    warning lamp (has a little battery icon on it, which is
    misleading). Also, it's a little early for the alternator's
    brushes (usually the first alternator item to fail) to be
    worn on your car.

    Still, what led to the new battery? Had you done many
    jumpstarts and then re-charging of the battery, using the
    alternator, before today? That will wear an alternator down
    more quickly, since it's actually not designed to charge
    batteries from dead.

    Had any other maintenance done on the car recently? Like a
    new timing belt?
     
    Elle, Apr 1, 2006
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  9. RanMan

    RanMan Guest

    The whine does increase and decrease with the accelerator.
     
    RanMan, Apr 1, 2006
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  10. RanMan

    Elle Guest

    I imagine you already know this, but I'd be under the hood,
    with someone else at the wheel, the car in neutral, pushing
    the gas pedal at your signal, and trying to narrow the
    source down, like duckbill said. Also, I'd try to see if any
    code was set, per my previous post.

    Updates welcome. With all the lights coming on, I'd sure be
    concerned it was a major engine component being affected.
     
    Elle, Apr 1, 2006
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