Ball Joint Stud/Castle Nut "Froze"

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle, May 17, 2006.

  1. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Cotter pin's out. How can I free the castle nut from the
    ball joint stud? They currently move as one.

    Please help as soon as possible.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
    #1
  2. The ball joint taper has broken its adhesion. Stick a jack under the control
    arm and lift enough to put the weight of the car on the taper to jam it
    again. You may need to give the joint a whack on the base with a hammer to
    help.

    GENTLY try turning the castle nut. If it all starts turning again, give the
    joint a whack again to lock it. Once its out, clean the taper and upright
    hole with solvent to remove any grease.

    Stewart DIBBS
     
    Stewart DIBBS, May 17, 2006
    #2
  3. The ball joint taper has broken its adhesion. Stick a jack under the control
    arm and lift enough to put the weight of the car on the taper to jam it
    again. You may need to give the joint a whack on the base with a hammer to
    help.

    GENTLY try turning the castle nut. If it all starts turning again, give the
    joint a whack again to lock it. Once its out, clean the taper and upright
    hole with solvent to remove any grease.

    Stewart DIBBS
     
    Stewart DIBBS, May 17, 2006
    #3
  4. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    what he said...
     
    jim beam, May 17, 2006
    #4
  5. Elle

    jim beam Guest

    what he said...
     
    jim beam, May 17, 2006
    #5
  6. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Thanks. I will try this Thursday when I resume work on my
    car.

    Helluva day with a control arm bolt, but got it without
    disassembling the ball joint, after all.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
    #6
  7. Elle

    Elle Guest

    Thanks. I will try this Thursday when I resume work on my
    car.

    Helluva day with a control arm bolt, but got it without
    disassembling the ball joint, after all.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
    #7
  8. Also try some brake cleaner in the taper seat before putting pressure on it.
    Oil in there is a real problem... as I've found :-(

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 17, 2006
    #8
  9. Also try some brake cleaner in the taper seat before putting pressure on it.
    Oil in there is a real problem... as I've found :-(

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 17, 2006
    #9
  10. Elle

    Elle Guest

    That's in my notes from the "Ball Joint Tools" thread of
    earlier. :)

    Also, as evidence I am paying attention (well, this time
    with a bit of hindsight as I look over my copy-and-pasted
    notes) I see a guy named headknocker suggested (in that
    thread) a vice grip applied to the joint when re-assembling
    to prevent the stud from turning.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
    #10
  11. Elle

    Elle Guest

    That's in my notes from the "Ball Joint Tools" thread of
    earlier. :)

    Also, as evidence I am paying attention (well, this time
    with a bit of hindsight as I look over my copy-and-pasted
    notes) I see a guy named headknocker suggested (in that
    thread) a vice grip applied to the joint when re-assembling
    to prevent the stud from turning.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
    #11
  12. Elle: Yeah, that was me. Both ways work equally well. Pick your poison :)
     
    Headknocker via CarKB.com, May 17, 2006
    #12
  13. Elle

    Jim Yanik Guest

    According to the Haynes manual,the upper BJ is not replaceable,and the
    entire control arm is supposed to be replaced;is there any method of
    replacing the BJ in the original control arm?
     
    Jim Yanik, May 17, 2006
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  14. Elle

    Jim Yanik Guest

    According to the Haynes manual,the upper BJ is not replaceable,and the
    entire control arm is supposed to be replaced;is there any method of
    replacing the BJ in the original control arm?
     
    Jim Yanik, May 17, 2006
    #14
  15. Elle

    Elle Guest

    I should have clarified that my post above concerns the
    lower control arm, which is bolted via the castle nut and
    ball joint stud to the knuckle... The knuckle for my Civic
    contains the lower ball joint. The UK site's Civic CRX
    manual has a procedure for replacing just the lower ball
    joint. The first step is to remove the knuckle...

    Not sure what you're asking, otherwise. I don't plan to
    replace the lower ball joint at this time. I am going to
    install new lower control arm bushings within the next week
    (God willing) and see if this remedies my car's un-levelness
    from pass. side to dr. side. I need to disconnect the lower
    ball joint to remove the control arm. I ran into trouble
    removing the inboard control bolt and for a little while
    thought my best bet was to disconnect the ball joint,
    yada... Anyway, managed to remove the inboard control bolt
    in its entirety without doing the BJ right now, so I can
    drive the car today and resume work tomorrow.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
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  16. Elle

    Elle Guest

    I should have clarified that my post above concerns the
    lower control arm, which is bolted via the castle nut and
    ball joint stud to the knuckle... The knuckle for my Civic
    contains the lower ball joint. The UK site's Civic CRX
    manual has a procedure for replacing just the lower ball
    joint. The first step is to remove the knuckle...

    Not sure what you're asking, otherwise. I don't plan to
    replace the lower ball joint at this time. I am going to
    install new lower control arm bushings within the next week
    (God willing) and see if this remedies my car's un-levelness
    from pass. side to dr. side. I need to disconnect the lower
    ball joint to remove the control arm. I ran into trouble
    removing the inboard control bolt and for a little while
    thought my best bet was to disconnect the ball joint,
    yada... Anyway, managed to remove the inboard control bolt
    in its entirety without doing the BJ right now, so I can
    drive the car today and resume work tomorrow.
     
    Elle, May 17, 2006
    #16
  17. Elle

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I'm sorry,I was thinking of my Integra,and the Haynes manual says -to
    replace the lower BJ,you remove the whole steering knuckle and take to to a
    shop to have a new BJ pressed in,and the UPPER BJ is -not replaceable-;you
    must replace the whole upper control wishbone.

    I was wondering if anyone offered a kit or service for replacing that upper
    BJ without replacing the upper wishbone.

    since you were working on your suspension ,I thought you or other readers
    might know.


    Have you tried two new springs yet?
    ISTR you were going to swap the unequal height springs;evidently that
    failed.
     
    Jim Yanik, May 17, 2006
    #17
  18. Elle

    Jim Yanik Guest

    I'm sorry,I was thinking of my Integra,and the Haynes manual says -to
    replace the lower BJ,you remove the whole steering knuckle and take to to a
    shop to have a new BJ pressed in,and the UPPER BJ is -not replaceable-;you
    must replace the whole upper control wishbone.

    I was wondering if anyone offered a kit or service for replacing that upper
    BJ without replacing the upper wishbone.

    since you were working on your suspension ,I thought you or other readers
    might know.


    Have you tried two new springs yet?
    ISTR you were going to swap the unequal height springs;evidently that
    failed.
     
    Jim Yanik, May 17, 2006
    #18
  19. Elle

    Eric Guest

    I've replaced an upper ball joint on my '88 Civic. The suspension is very
    similar to the Integra. I replaced the whole upper arm. It's pretty easy.
    If I remember correctly, the upper ball joint is welded into the upper arm
    and it's not worth the hassle trying to replace it as a separate unit.

    Eric
     
    Eric, May 17, 2006
    #19
  20. Elle

    Eric Guest

    I've replaced an upper ball joint on my '88 Civic. The suspension is very
    similar to the Integra. I replaced the whole upper arm. It's pretty easy.
    If I remember correctly, the upper ball joint is welded into the upper arm
    and it's not worth the hassle trying to replace it as a separate unit.

    Eric
     
    Eric, May 17, 2006
    #20
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