Ball Joint Tools

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle, Apr 16, 2006.

  1. That's why I thought the air hammer would do the trick. I would need a
    massive brass transplant to get me to swing a regular hammer under the car
    the way it would take to upset a ball joint.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Apr 19, 2006
    #41
  2. Elle

    Stephen H Guest

    Just did 2 on a rusty Subaru today Time spent total 2 minutes; and that
    included putting down the prepare in my hand.
    I admit; I was a pickle fork user until 1.5 years ago. I kept watching
    another tech pull joints apart after one or two blows from a hammer. I got
    my biggest hammer and gave it a try.
    My pickle fork has been out of the box 1 time this year.



    --
    Stephen W. Hansen
    ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
    ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
    ASE Undercar Specialist

    http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm
    http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
     
    Stephen H, Apr 19, 2006
    #42
  3. Elle

    Stephen H Guest

    Just did 2 on a rusty Subaru today Time spent total 2 minutes; and that
    included putting down the prepare in my hand.
    I admit; I was a pickle fork user until 1.5 years ago. I kept watching
    another tech pull joints apart after one or two blows from a hammer. I got
    my biggest hammer and gave it a try.
    My pickle fork has been out of the box 1 time this year.



    --
    Stephen W. Hansen
    ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
    ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
    ASE Undercar Specialist

    http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm
    http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
     
    Stephen H, Apr 19, 2006
    #43
  4. Elle

    Elle Guest

    The JTC Auto Tools ball joint separator #1727 that I
    purchased on Ebay (specifically suggested by Ryan Biggs
    here) arrived this past Thursday (four business days after
    purchase). Cost: $25 + another $10 for shipping. Today I
    used it to successfully separate my Civic's front pass. side
    ball joint. This is in preparation for replacing the front
    control arm bushings on both sides. The tool worked great.
    Tips:

    -- Diagrams for positioning the tool appear in several of
    the manuals at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html . The factory
    service manuals and my Chilton's manual are a little vague
    about using any particular special tool on the lower control
    arm ball joints (as compared to other ball joints in the
    front suspension). Nonetheless, it works perfectly.

    -- Per Curly's suggestion, I ground a shallow hole where the
    bolt pin pushes against the tool's arm.

    -- I found I did not need to grind the "claws" so as to fit
    around the rubber boot better. They are actually pretty
    smooth already on this particular version of the tool. It
    seems to have been made carefully so as to preclude a torn
    boot. I did tap a little on the tool to push the claws
    firmly into place.

    -- I only used one stage of the two stages on this
    particular tool. The ball joint separated with a loud pop
    about mid-way through the bolt advance. I used a 1.5 foot
    breaker bar and 15/16-inch socket. But not too much force
    was necessary to get the ball joint apart.

    -- I flipped the castle nut and reinstalled it until its
    bottom was flush with the bottom of the ball joint bolt, per
    Eric's and Tegger's direction. Worked great. No damage of
    anything from all I can see.

    -- Reinstalling was a cinch, as Michael indicated. I lifted
    the control arm (just a little inboard of the ball joint
    bolt) using a scissors jack against the weight of the car,
    and I heard the joint snapped back into place. The joining
    snap was more muted than the separating snap. I installed
    the castle nut about where I thought it should be, then
    fully removed the jack. I torqued it to spec. (only 32
    ft-lbs for my Civic). Then I advanced it a bit more to line
    up the cotter pin holes and installed the pin. Then I put
    the wheel back on and removed the jack stand.

    -- I think the cheaper version of this tool one sees online
    (the one that is "single stage") might very well work fine,
    except I'd double check that the claws didn't tear the boot
    rubber.

    Thanks everyone for the input. I am quite pleased with the
    progress. The last hurdle in my front suspension renovation
    project is now actually pressing the new bushings in place.
    My new Mugen bushings arrive Wednesday. I start trying to
    install them, per the tips here, on Thursday.
     
    Elle, May 15, 2006
    #44
  5. Elle

    Elle Guest

    The JTC Auto Tools ball joint separator #1727 that I
    purchased on Ebay (specifically suggested by Ryan Biggs
    here) arrived this past Thursday (four business days after
    purchase). Cost: $25 + another $10 for shipping. Today I
    used it to successfully separate my Civic's front pass. side
    ball joint. This is in preparation for replacing the front
    control arm bushings on both sides. The tool worked great.
    Tips:

    -- Diagrams for positioning the tool appear in several of
    the manuals at
    http://www.honda.co.uk/car/owner/workshop.html . The factory
    service manuals and my Chilton's manual are a little vague
    about using any particular special tool on the lower control
    arm ball joints (as compared to other ball joints in the
    front suspension). Nonetheless, it works perfectly.

    -- Per Curly's suggestion, I ground a shallow hole where the
    bolt pin pushes against the tool's arm.

    -- I found I did not need to grind the "claws" so as to fit
    around the rubber boot better. They are actually pretty
    smooth already on this particular version of the tool. It
    seems to have been made carefully so as to preclude a torn
    boot. I did tap a little on the tool to push the claws
    firmly into place.

    -- I only used one stage of the two stages on this
    particular tool. The ball joint separated with a loud pop
    about mid-way through the bolt advance. I used a 1.5 foot
    breaker bar and 15/16-inch socket. But not too much force
    was necessary to get the ball joint apart.

    -- I flipped the castle nut and reinstalled it until its
    bottom was flush with the bottom of the ball joint bolt, per
    Eric's and Tegger's direction. Worked great. No damage of
    anything from all I can see.

    -- Reinstalling was a cinch, as Michael indicated. I lifted
    the control arm (just a little inboard of the ball joint
    bolt) using a scissors jack against the weight of the car,
    and I heard the joint snapped back into place. The joining
    snap was more muted than the separating snap. I installed
    the castle nut about where I thought it should be, then
    fully removed the jack. I torqued it to spec. (only 32
    ft-lbs for my Civic). Then I advanced it a bit more to line
    up the cotter pin holes and installed the pin. Then I put
    the wheel back on and removed the jack stand.

    -- I think the cheaper version of this tool one sees online
    (the one that is "single stage") might very well work fine,
    except I'd double check that the claws didn't tear the boot
    rubber.

    Thanks everyone for the input. I am quite pleased with the
    progress. The last hurdle in my front suspension renovation
    project is now actually pressing the new bushings in place.
    My new Mugen bushings arrive Wednesday. I start trying to
    install them, per the tips here, on Thursday.
     
    Elle, May 15, 2006
    #45
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