Battery-alternator problem.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by lswpubrw, Feb 7, 2007.

  1. lswpubrw

    lswpubrw Guest

    It's been really cold here (~10 F) over night and my car has developed
    a strange problem. It's a 1991 Accord EX StatWag. The battery is 37
    months old. It's my wife's car so I only discovered the problem when
    I used it the other day. The car started fine but the battery light
    stayed on and eventually the car almost didn't start after one stop.
    When I got home I measured the battery voltage and it was about 12 V.
    I charged the battery and things started fine and light did NOT come
    on even as I drove it on a short trip. I measured the voltage at the
    battery with the engine running and it's 14.6V. Next morning a
    problem again with the charge light. The battery drops down to 12.5V
    overnight after being charged. When the car is running the voltage at
    the battery is only 12.1V under this low voltage condition. If the
    car runs long enough the charge light sometimes goes out and the
    voltage from the alternator goes up to 14.6V. So my question is can a
    low (going bad) battery make alternator voltage drop, and the charging
    light stay on?

    Thanks,
    Bob
     
    lswpubrw, Feb 7, 2007
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    Elle Guest

    Try the five checks listed at
    http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html

    Has the battery been allowed to go dead in the last 37
    months? If so, what means did you use to re-charge it? Is
    the alternator the original one? If not, how old is the
    current one?

    What is the make of the battery?
     
    Elle, Feb 7, 2007
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    jim beam Guest

    potentially, but check the belt for slippage and the alternator brushes
    for wear first.
     
    jim beam, Feb 7, 2007
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  4. lswpubrw

    lswpubrw Guest

    No, Don't know I've only owned the car for 3 years. Kirkland
    (Costco).

    bob
     
    lswpubrw, Feb 7, 2007
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  5. lswpubrw

    lswpubrw Guest

    Belt feels tight, little give when I press down. The brush assembly
    be removed without removing the alternator? I'm trying to avoid
    taking the power steering pump off.

    Bob
     
    lswpubrw, Feb 7, 2007
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    Jim Yanik Guest

    batteries can go bad early:I had one die after one year,it was replaced
    under warranty(PepBoy battery.)

    Cold weather can accellerate that death.

    Get a load test on the battery.
     
    Jim Yanik, Feb 7, 2007
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  7. lswpubrw

    Tegger Guest


    Your alternator is faulty! During the low-voltage episodes, the alternator
    is not charging. You need to replace either the brushes or the entire
    alternator.

    You can buy a new brush holder from the dealer for about $20.

    Do yourself a favor if you replace the entire alternator. Go spend the
    extra hundred or so dollars and get a Honda reman from the dealer. The
    headaches and problems you'll save will be priceless.
     
    Tegger, Feb 8, 2007
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  8. lswpubrw

    Tegger Guest



    3/8" deflection at the middle of the longest run with 20 lbs pressure
    is proper tension. But this is not your problem here.



    The brush assembly can be removed with the alternator in-situ, but you need
    a NEW, WELL-FITTING Phillips screwdriver to remove the two holder screws.

    My experience from 2002:
    <http://groups.google.com/group/rec.autos.makers.honda/browse_frm/thread/611d2083a2bb174c/f963e0cb2ba9d689?lnk=st&q=&rnum=1#f963e0cb2ba9d689>
     
    Tegger, Feb 8, 2007
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  9. lswpubrw

    lswpubrw Guest

    I measured the voltage while my wife hit the starter. Battery voltage
    dropped to 10V but it started without much trouble.
     
    lswpubrw, Feb 8, 2007
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  10. Cold, eh? :)

    Try -25 F on for size, them complain about the cold. And my wife busted the
    plug off of the block heater cord... It still starts, but boy she sure don't
    wanna!

    Terry in WINTERPEG
     
    loewent via CarKB.com, Feb 8, 2007
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    rick505 Guest

    replace the alt. this just happened to my car the alt light came on during
    the day at a idle but not all the time as soon as i stepped down on it the
    light went out it did that for a couple days then it stopped then a week
    later it came back tested the bat load test it was fine it was low but
    charged it up and fine took alt to autozone they checked it and it checked
    out fine put back on car and no light a couple days later light came back
    replaced alt and no more light the old alt was going bad
     
    rick505, Feb 8, 2007
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