"Black Box" information retention?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Dan the man...., Oct 9, 2007.

  1. I've heard many conflicting stories and I'm hoping someone here knows a
    little more definitively.

    I am looking to find out if the "Black Box" on my Honda can retain
    information from a ceratin date a few months ago.

    (The car was involved in an accident, and has been repaired and driven
    since....)

    How long does the box retain the data?

    Thanks for your help.
     
    Dan the man...., Oct 9, 2007
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  2. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    It's a FIFO system. Stores something like 2 hours of data. I forget exactly
    how much.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  3. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    It's a FIFO system. Stores something like 2 hours of data. I forget exactly
    how much.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  4. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    obd0 = zero
    obd1 = 30 secs

    i think obd2 varies depending on year and manufacturer, but the info is
    supposed to be pretty much comprehensive for anything the computer
    controls and covers an extensive period.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  5. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    obd0 = zero
    obd1 = 30 secs

    i think obd2 varies depending on year and manufacturer, but the info is
    supposed to be pretty much comprehensive for anything the computer
    controls and covers an extensive period.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  6. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    The data recorder ("black box") is independent of the ODB system. It
    records stuff like seat belt usage, air bag deployment, car speed and
    engine RPM.

    Automakers are beginning to add "black boxes" to their cars as protection
    against liability and fraudulent warranty claims.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  7. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    The data recorder ("black box") is independent of the ODB system. It
    records stuff like seat belt usage, air bag deployment, car speed and
    engine RPM.

    Automakers are beginning to add "black boxes" to their cars as protection
    against liability and fraudulent warranty claims.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  8. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    that's very recent. prior to that, data recording is done by the ecu.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  9. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    that's very recent. prior to that, data recording is done by the ecu.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  10. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    Having typed the above, I remember now that I read once (not online) that
    the black box actually holds more like a minute to five minutes of engine-
    running time.

    The automakers are interested only in the events immediately prior to,
    and during, a collision or mechanical failure.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  11. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    Having typed the above, I remember now that I read once (not online) that
    the black box actually holds more like a minute to five minutes of engine-
    running time.

    The automakers are interested only in the events immediately prior to,
    and during, a collision or mechanical failure.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  12. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    I'm not sure the data I list above was ever recorded by the ECU. That's why
    they started installing "black boxes" in the first place.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  13. Dan the man....

    Tegger Guest


    I'm not sure the data I list above was ever recorded by the ECU. That's why
    they started installing "black boxes" in the first place.
     
    Tegger, Oct 9, 2007
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  14. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    the data i listed is though.

    original reason was a manufacturer legacy of product development and
    testing. then law enforcement became interested. the rest is history.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  15. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    the data i listed is though.

    original reason was a manufacturer legacy of product development and
    testing. then law enforcement became interested. the rest is history.
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  16. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    not necessarily. manufacturers are interested in driving habits and 5
    mins isn't sufficient for that. law enforcement is /definitely/
    interested in habit. if data analysis says you're an habitual speeder,
    late braker, and all-around madman, they want to throw the book at
    you. if your habit is law abiding, but you got in a fender bender, they
    won't bother. word is that insurance companies are interested in
    driving habit data too. imagine that!
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  17. Dan the man....

    jim beam Guest

    not necessarily. manufacturers are interested in driving habits and 5
    mins isn't sufficient for that. law enforcement is /definitely/
    interested in habit. if data analysis says you're an habitual speeder,
    late braker, and all-around madman, they want to throw the book at
    you. if your habit is law abiding, but you got in a fender bender, they
    won't bother. word is that insurance companies are interested in
    driving habit data too. imagine that!
     
    jim beam, Oct 9, 2007
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  18. Dan the man....

    Rob Guest

    Well again, the question comes forth...how far back is the information about
    a crash retrievable?

    If I wanted to access crash information from a day in the summer...would it
    still be there?

    Does it hold that information indefinitely...until the next crash? ...until
    you drive it again? ??

    Thanks for your help!
     
    Rob, Oct 9, 2007
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  19. Dan the man....

    Rob Guest

    Well again, the question comes forth...how far back is the information about
    a crash retrievable?

    If I wanted to access crash information from a day in the summer...would it
    still be there?

    Does it hold that information indefinitely...until the next crash? ...until
    you drive it again? ??

    Thanks for your help!
     
    Rob, Oct 9, 2007
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  20. Dan the man....

    motsco_ Guest

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    Yes, the info would still be there if the vehicle has not been powered
    up since the crash. There would be x minutes of data available.

    You said the car has been driven since. If the 'black box' is in the
    car, the data is now gone.



    'Curly'
     
    motsco_, Oct 9, 2007
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