blown cylinder?, or easier fix?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by minique, Feb 20, 2007.

  1. minique

    minique Guest

    i have a 91 accord with 230K..i recently pulled up to a toll booth,
    and the car sounded like it was missing...a knowledgeable friend gave
    it a spark test, and guessed that the car had blown a cylinder...i’ve
    been running it locally, and it’s been getting me around...it idles
    very rough, but when i get it over 20mph, it seems to smoothe out and
    runs fine...any thoughts on this problem...is it cylinder, or an
    easier fix...thanx for any suggestions...
     
    minique, Feb 20, 2007
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  2. minique

    jim beam Guest

    blown cylinder???

    before jumping to such expensive conclusions, get a little data on your
    side:

    1. check the ecu for codes.
    2. eliminate problems: make sure all the plugs are screwed in correctly,
    that the rest of the ignition componentry works ok, etc.
    3. if 1 & 2 doesn't lead you to a fix, and it likely will, do a
    compression test.

    report back with results.
     
    jim beam, Feb 20, 2007
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  3. As jim says - a failed cylinder is not the first thing we think of. If the
    temperature is steady I wouldn't even put cylinders in the first bunch of
    suspects.

    If the power seems normal above 20 mph, add a check for vacuum leaks
    (particularly cracked hoses to the intake manifold) to jim's list.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 20, 2007
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  4. minique

    z Guest

    bad injector?
     
    z, Feb 20, 2007
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  5. minique

    minique Guest

    hi...this is minique once again...will have compression test done
    tomorrow...mechanic said it could be bad valve,worst case scenario,
    which would require valve and gasket job, taking it over 500
    possibly...he said it probably would not be worth it, due to high
    mileage. a month down the road it could happen to another valve...u
    never know....best case scenario, a bad rocker arm, which he could fix
    for around 100....stay tuned for the climactic ending of this
    saga...and thanx for the feedback
     
    minique, Feb 20, 2007
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  6. minique

    Thom Guest

    A bad valve would be bbad all the time. Look at the earlier
    suggesteds possibilities. I had a VW Golf with a blown valvew,
    beleieve me it does not get better with speed.
     
    Thom, Feb 21, 2007
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  7. Good point - that would be unusual.
     
    Michael Pardee, Feb 21, 2007
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  8. minique

    Matt Ion Guest

    Yeah, anything that would be considered a "blown cylinder" wouldn't clear up
    with speed. I'll third the recommendation of a compression test and searching
    for vacuum leaks.

    Oh, and most importantly, get a second opinion from another mechanic - this one
    sounds like he's looking for ways to uninstall your wallet.
     
    Matt Ion, Feb 22, 2007
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  9. minique

    jim beam Guest

    burnt valves do "clear up with speed", or while the burn is still small
    at any rate. but there's no sudden onset. i think the o.p. simply had
    a plug unscrew itself - it's sudden, sounds dramatic, and because
    there's no compression, the car still runs at speed without to much
    drama, albeit with reduced power.
     
    jim beam, Feb 22, 2007
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  10. minique

    rick505 Guest

    the way u are describing it do a compretion test i just replaced a exaust
    valve on my 90 honda accord 2.2 it was burnt it still ran on 3cyl. at a
    idle it ran bad it shook the car it would still go on the highway up to
    speed and it ran ok but as soon as it idled it ran bad if i remember
    wright the valve cost $18 and the gasket kit cost $130 and i did the work
    my self what a pain in the butt it was. if they want to charge u more than
    $350 to fix your cylinder head get a rebuilt one at advanced auto $361.99
     
    rick505, Feb 22, 2007
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  11. minique

    minique Guest

    yep...that’s what it was...hoping it was just a rocker arm, but
    cylinder #1 had 0 compression, and no visible ticking sound.....also ,
    had a little oil on the plugs...thanx for the advice, but i dont think
    i could handle the valve job myself...anyone wanting a parts car, let
    me know...will use it to get around locally for a while until i can
    find another vehicl
     
    minique, Mar 5, 2007
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