Born suckers

As free traders are we being taken for suckers, with the US and
Canadian government acquiescing with countries actively acting in bad
faith and trading unfairly.

This is from a newspaper article (
http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=9be471d3-8ddb-449c-95d4-50eb643037a5&k=21038
)

Here is the take away from this article...

"Hargrove said four million vehicles were shipped into North America
last year, many from countries that don't allow foreign cars to be
sold in their markets.

He took special aim at Japan for tariff and other barriers.

"One story is that if you buy an import, right away your income tax is
audited," Hargrove said, adding that inspection processes are another
way foreign vehicles are kept out of Japan."

It is bad enough that the US guarantees their security at great cost
while they build and ship cars from their countries (Japan, Korea
specifically) while undermining the North American economy by blocking
access to their markets.

Where does fair trade become part of the purchasing decision?

 

IF American car companies made the best cars and trucks on the market, the
foreign car companies wouldn't be so popular in North America.

Really simple....

 

If the "American" companies offered what I wanted, without raping me in the
wallet, I would have bought one of those. As it was, the *ONLY* truck that
had what I needed was my Tundra..... and it was made in the USA.

 

that's the irony of the op's dumb-ass trolling. japanese companies
manufacture quality vehicles here, using locally sourced components.
domestics manufacture crap, in mexico and wherever, and use chinese
components. and they over-charge. and they cut corners on dangerous
stuff like red rear turn signals. then they whine about losing market
share! must be run by sociopaths.

 

<snip>

It's real simple. Americans want a car that *works* predictably and reliably
for YEARS. Many, if given that choice, would buy AMERICAN vehicles if they
met the criteria.

Sadly, most of the Detroit 3's offerings don't, haven't, and may not ever.

It's hard to remain loyal to any company that costs you regular trips to the
repair shop and hundreds or thousands of dollars.

Some of us don't have that kind of scratch to throw around simply to be
patriotic (putting everything else aside)....

It's sad. But people will buy what works.

 

Really? Apparently American buyers think GM and Ford products are better
that Toyota, they buy millions more of their vehicles from them than buyers
that chose Toyotas LOL

mike

 

And if others in other countries can get what they want right at their own
back door, why import junk?

 

Tell you what, Mike. End of the year, go to a Toyota dealer and count the
leftovers.

Then go to a Ford, GM, or Chrysler dealer and do the same.

Shoot...in 2005 when I was working for a Toyota/Licoln-Mercury/Chrysler
dealer, we had PLENTY of 2004 Chryslers, a few 2004 Mercurys (we even had
a 2001 Grand Marquis!) a *bunch* of Lincoln LS's (which I thought was a
nice car...) and a handful of Jeeps.

Do I need to tell you how many Toyotas were left over?

 

Pay careful attention to the next Tundra commercial you hear...

"...ASSEMBLED in America..."

 

"must be run by sociopaths."....jim beam

most likely run by bankers and the UAW instead of auto
companies.................kjun

 

He said foreign car companies, not specifically Toyota. As it is, Toyota
is about to overtake GM on their own turf and Ford is spiraling down the
drain with record losses.

I know a person who bought a new Corvette and kept it exactly one year.
It made numerous trips to the dealership for repairs, which were covered
under warranty, but kept the car in the shop for a full month out of the
12 that he owned it. This is GM's flagship sport scar, and they can't
even get that right.

Really, name just one car, (not truck), from the top 3 U.S. auto makers
that doesn't have a similar but much better foreign offering.

Pat

 

As I said in other posts, if the "Big 3" offered what I wanted, I would
have bought one of theirs instead of my Tundra.

 

I'll give you 2
Mustang GT
Ford GT

 

Using your line of reasoning, liberals have a better "product" than the
conservatives. "Proof" is that they were voted in as the majority.

 

LOL! Was this a Freudian? It sure works!

 

Nissan 350Z

Acura NSX

 

Haha, I think so, it wasn't consciously intended.
That is pretty good, I must admit, my best typo so far.

Pat

 

Let's hear it for the greed, of the manufactures, and labor unions...

 

LOL! <BSEG>!

 

I was looking to the future and reflecting on the past. Right now
although the US quality has improved it still lags the Japanese
manufacturers, so there is more work to do, but the quality gap has
closed, however, if it's the case that Asian car quality is that much
more superior what are the Asian Manufacturers afraid of? This is just
one example, there are other industries that are effected in exactly
the same way, ie: unfair trading behaviour.

They have a huge advantage if they can export with impunity while
denying the same access to the US manufacturers. Why aren't more
people outraged?

I think part of the problem is the fact that the American
manufacturers build for the North American market while the Asian and
Europeans build for the world, and on top of that the US manufacturers
have ceded large parts of the market due to lax and incompetent
management, through relying on Suv's and trucks, a very complacent
approach that only now is coming to fruition with massive loss of
market share for the US manufacturers as both the Suv and truck
markets have started to go south.

Also while relying on bulk sales to the car leasing companies look
good as far a volume is concerned they represent little in profit per
car, again a complacent approach that is a result and responsibility
of US auto makers management, I don't think you can blame the unions,
as I understand it the Japanese manufactures pay the same compensation
to their non-unionized members as the unionized US car manufacturer's
workers.