Brake Flush Bleeder Bolt Adapters?

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Elle, Apr 26, 2006.

  1. Elle

    Elle Guest

    The Mity-Vac (metal pump) kit I bought for around $40 is the
    following:
    http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=2068

    It's on sale for about $40 now. Take a printout of the site
    above with you to the store to get the sale price.

    Harbor Freight also sells a plastic pump version for around
    $32. It is probably just fine.

    From googling more on this, a lot of people have had "one
    person brake bleed/flush" success with "Speed Bleeder
    valves." One removes the old bleeder bolts and installs
    these in their place. See site www.speedbleeder.com . Pep
    Boys sells these one way (= check) valves, too.
    No, though if it's been awhile, I'd spray down the threads
    as best I could with the penetrating oil "PB Blaster"
    (around $4 for a big spray can). Great stuff.

    I think I have read of people overtorquing and so breaking
    these tiny bolts, though. Only 7 ft-lbs. is specified in the
    manual for my 91 Civic.
    Isn't that silicone brake fluid (to be distinguished from
    the "synthetic" DOT 3 and 4 brake fluids)? It doesn't mix
    with the DOT 3 and 4, as I understand it. I don't think
    there's much reason to use other than DOT 3 and 4. Googling
    for {"Brake fluid" silicone "DOT 3"} etc. turns up a lot.
    E.g. see http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml

    Let the group know how it goes... :) I found it a little
    tricky the first time but the second time was a breeze, like
    I said, though I hope to improve on the rear brakes' bleed
    part.
     
    Elle, Apr 28, 2006
    #21
  2. Elle

    SoCalMike Guest

    its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
    i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
    of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
    my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
    fluid.

    but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
    for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
    bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 28, 2006
    #22
  3. Elle

    SoCalMike Guest

    its been a while, but i remember buying (2) 32oz bottles of it. i think
    i used all of one, and part of another. i still probably have the "part
    of another" in the garage, and it probably needs to be tossed by now. or
    my brother can use it in his chevy truck, which has java-colored brake
    fluid.

    but hey- its his life, and his truck. i cant be chief maintenance tech
    for everyone i know. tho i HAVE offered to help teach him how to do a
    bleed/flush. oh well. hes got better things to do.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 28, 2006
    #23
  4. Elle

    SoCalMike Guest

    i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
    sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
    and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.

    any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
    interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
    like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
    they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
    the rust belt, if thats where you are.
    never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
    it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 28, 2006
    #24
  5. Elle

    SoCalMike Guest

    i think i got mine at harbor freight. its one of the few things they
    sell that isnt made of stinky chinese or indian metal/rubber/plastic,
    and i paid full price... $40, i think for the kit.

    any auto parts store should carry it as well. mine came with an
    interesting 1970/80s era booklet that told how to diagnose problems,
    like headlight doors that dont open. how quaint!
    they shouldnt, hopefully. i dont know how prone they are to seizing in
    the rust belt, if thats where you are.
    never used it, but it should work. i just used regular stuff but change
    it every 3 years. something like that i might change every 5yrs, if at all.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 28, 2006
    #25
  6. Elle

    SoCalMike Guest

    woo hoo... thats mine as well!
    i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
    exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
    all-plastic version would last that long in my hands :)
    even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
    threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
    it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
    with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
    kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
    it ran like new.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 28, 2006
    #26
  7. Elle

    SoCalMike Guest

    woo hoo... thats mine as well!
    i dunno bout that. the plastic gauge cover on mine cracked due to
    exposure to brake fluid, parts cleaner, and god-knows-what. not sure an
    all-plastic version would last that long in my hands :)
    even with speed bleeders, id use teflon tape so air doesnt get thru the
    threads. also functions as an anti-sieze.
    it says its compatible, and long life. id probably be extra thorough
    with the bleeding. motul is good stuff. used their oil for years in a
    kawasaki i had, and even after 24k miles, the compression was great and
    it ran like new.
     
    SoCalMike, Apr 28, 2006
    #27
  8. Elle

    Elle Guest

    IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.

    I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
    than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
    ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
    Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
    someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.

    Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
    crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
    the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
    I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
    bleed fine and very quick.
     
    Elle, Apr 28, 2006
    #28
  9. Elle

    Elle Guest

    IIRC it was because of your suggestion that I bought this.

    I bought the super-duper one because the thing can do more
    than bleed brakes. E.g. vacuum testing yada. So looking
    ahead, I wanted something sturdy.
    Noted. I just have a vague memory of a Usenet post where
    someone said he had the plastic one and it was fine.

    Understood about the teflon tape. If you could see the
    crummy fit I have with the cone-shaped Mity-Vac fittings for
    the rear brakes, I think you might be focused on them, too.
    I don't use teflon tape on the fronts, and they seem to
    bleed fine and very quick.
     
    Elle, Apr 28, 2006
    #29
  10. Elle

    Mike Doyle Guest

    ......
    Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
    http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT_5%5B1%5D.1_Brake_Fluid_8070_(GB).pdf
     
    Mike Doyle, Apr 29, 2006
    #30
  11. Elle

    Mike Doyle Guest

    ......
    Not silicone, but synthetic. Here's a PDF with info & specs.
    http://www.motorspot.com/itm_img/DOT_5%5B1%5D.1_Brake_Fluid_8070_(GB).pdf
     
    Mike Doyle, Apr 29, 2006
    #31
  12. Elle

    Mike Doyle Guest


    I'm in Illinois, & the 94 VX has been here for several years. I'm thinking
    about going to SpeedBleeders if they come off.
     
    Mike Doyle, Apr 29, 2006
    #32
  13. Elle

    Mike Doyle Guest


    I'm in Illinois, & the 94 VX has been here for several years. I'm thinking
    about going to SpeedBleeders if they come off.
     
    Mike Doyle, Apr 29, 2006
    #33
  14. Elle

    johngdole Guest

    Pressure bleeding is quite convenient for me, and I haven't tried my
    MityVac for brake bleeding purpose. I use Motive Product's "Power
    Bleeder":

    http://www.motiveproducts.com/

    I see the price has gone up since the ~$49 days. I use 1qt of brake
    fluid for each flush. Castrol GT LMA DOT-3/4.

    Speed bleeders use the teflon seals (a tube is provided with the kit)
    on the threads to prevent air from getting past the bleeder threads.
    You might want to use the same stuff if going the MityVac route, or the
    teflon tape others mentioned.

    You can read the instructions on the Motive site and see if you want to
    go the pressure bleeder route.

    http://www.motiveproducts.com/10instruct.html
     
    johngdole, Apr 30, 2006
    #34
  15. Elle

    johngdole Guest

    Pressure bleeding is quite convenient for me, and I haven't tried my
    MityVac for brake bleeding purpose. I use Motive Product's "Power
    Bleeder":

    http://www.motiveproducts.com/

    I see the price has gone up since the ~$49 days. I use 1qt of brake
    fluid for each flush. Castrol GT LMA DOT-3/4.

    Speed bleeders use the teflon seals (a tube is provided with the kit)
    on the threads to prevent air from getting past the bleeder threads.
    You might want to use the same stuff if going the MityVac route, or the
    teflon tape others mentioned.

    You can read the instructions on the Motive site and see if you want to
    go the pressure bleeder route.

    http://www.motiveproducts.com/10instruct.html
     
    johngdole, Apr 30, 2006
    #35
  16. Elle

    Bruce Guest

    Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
    hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
    bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
    the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
    res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
    and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
    pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
    most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
    before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
    lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.
     
    Bruce, May 1, 2006
    #36
  17. Elle

    Bruce Guest

    Yes... there is a cap with rubber gasket that fits over the MC res. A
    hose extends from the pressure bottle to the cap. When you open the
    bleeder screws, fresh fluid is forced from the bug sprayer bottle into
    the MC res and through the system. You just secure the cap on the MC
    res, fill the pressure bottle with a bottle of fluid, tighten the lid
    and pump until the pressure gauge reaches the appropriate psi. The
    pressure bottle is about a gallon in size, more than enough to bleed
    most brake systems. I usually use a turkey baster to empty the MC res
    before starting just to make sure I'm not circulating crap through the
    lines. Takes less than 15 mins total to bleed the entire car.
     
    Bruce, May 1, 2006
    #37
  18. I'm sure everybody in this thread has it covered, but for the benefit of
    casual readers: make sure the teflon tape stays on the threads and doesn't
    overlap the nose of the nipple at all. Getting teflon debris in brakes
    doesn't work well.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 1, 2006
    #38
  19. I'm sure everybody in this thread has it covered, but for the benefit of
    casual readers: make sure the teflon tape stays on the threads and doesn't
    overlap the nose of the nipple at all. Getting teflon debris in brakes
    doesn't work well.

    Mike
     
    Michael Pardee, May 1, 2006
    #39
  20. Elle

    Jim Yanik Guest

    Can these be rented from a local tool rental store?
    Any brand names I should ask for?

    (I appreciate the reply,but it's nice and proper to include the text of the
    post you responded to.)
     
    Jim Yanik, May 2, 2006
    #40
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