Brake Job gone wrong.

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Emperor Allmon, Feb 16, 2004.

  1. Had my breaks checked. Brake Check told me it was the master cylinder
    and front breaks needed replaces. I purchased new master cylinder and
    replaced the old one. It went fairly well. I bench bled the new master
    cylinder and had little trouble installing it ... BUT when I bleed the
    system nothing goes well first a broken bleeder screw on my passenger
    rear, I replaced the wheel cylinder. Then I bleed in the order
    recommended by my Chiltons. Passenger rear, Driver front, driver rear,
    passenger front. Things go well until I get to the driver rear. My
    buddy pumps the pedal, holds, I open the screw, Fluid, I close the
    screw, system pressure is crap. It is worse than before, almost no
    pressure on the system. I start again and the same problem. I try and
    skip the driver rear and move to the passenger from and I get the same
    problem. I can get some pressure back if I just bleed the passenger
    rear and driver front, but the driver rear and passenger front mess
    everyithing up. No when I drive it I get some pressure, the brakes are
    soggy and there is this "clump" when I press the pedal about halfway
    through my braking. I can feel it in the pedal and the pedal jumps to
    the floor. Any help is appreciated.
     
    Emperor Allmon, Feb 16, 2004
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  2. Assuming everything is installed correctly I would just gravity bleed
    everything again.

    CaptainKrunch
     
    CaptainKrunch, Feb 16, 2004
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  3. Emperor Allmon

    Pailyn Guest

    Just curious. Who did the brake check and why did you need the master
    cylinder at the first place? Are you absolutely sure that you needed new
    cylinder and brakes?

    I'm a big skeptic of anything auto mechanics tells me unless I can verify
    for myself. If they do brake checks, ask for actually millimeters of rotors
    and pads using the calipers. I don't want eye estimates.. anyway... if you
    were knowledgeable enough to tackle the brake job yourself I would reckon
    that you know if it was truly bad or now.

    Yeah... I would try to bleed it again. I have bought a long hose at a pet
    store and routed it all the way to the driver seat as I pump the brakes ...
    one man bleeding operation. :) At least you had a friend to help..
     
    Pailyn, Feb 16, 2004
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  4. Emperor Allmon

    w_tom Guest

    Have done same. A hose from cylinder bleed screw into a
    glass jar. Then slowly pumping the brake petal, adding fluid
    to master cylinder (so that it never goes dry) until brake
    fluid is comes out clear. No need to close bleed screw if
    hose is inside a pool of used brake fluid inside that jar.
    Just press and release petal slowly. Also quickly identifies
    an air bubble.

    Furthermore, I agree with 'suspicion' of bad master
    cylinder. They just don't fail unless brake fluid was
    contaminated. Sound more like a brake line is clogged - again
    contamination when someone refilled brake cylinder?

    Sounds more like you now have air somewhere in the lines.
    Get hose that is flexible enough to remain stuck on that bleed
    screw. Use that jar so that you can discover when air bubbles
    appear.
     
    w_tom, Feb 17, 2004
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  5. Thanks for all the help. The car has 185,000 miles on it. There was no
    pressure in the lines with the old master cylinder and bleeding did
    not help. It turns out one of my caliper mounts was siezed from any
    movement so that wasn't helping. After cleaning up that mess I went
    through the bleeding process again. I am able to get the pressure up
    and the brakes work great, but I still have a problem if I open the
    driver side rear bleeder screw. I lose all my system pressure. If I
    bleed all three other lines I get it back. Very wierd.
     
    Emperor Allmon, Feb 17, 2004
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