Brake repair problems

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by clh333, May 24, 2007.

  1. clh333

    clh333 Guest

    I have a 98 Civic DX that I have been rebuilding for the past year. I
    took the car to two mechanic shops, and both stated that the brakes
    needed replacement, front and rear. I live in an area where the
    winter snow and salt cause heavy corrosion.

    This week I replaced rear drums, shoes and hardware with aftermarket
    parts. I had difficulty getting the drums over the new shoes. I
    believe everything was positioned accurately: the clevises in the
    proper positions, the adjusters at minimum expansion, the rear brake
    cables slack. But the drum fits so tightly that force is necessary to
    rotate the wheel. I am wondering if I can drive the car carefully and
    wear in the components, or if I have to go back and start over. If
    so, what whould I do differently next time?

    Now I am working on the front brakes: new rotors, pads and hardware,
    but have the following question: is the tube through which the caliper
    pin (bolt and sleeve combination) slides supposed to move freely
    through the caliper body? Obviously the caliper needs to "float".
    But does the pin move and the tube stay static, or do both move? My
    manual doesn't go into detail. Right now the tubes are fixed in
    place. I don't want to screw things up by trying to free them up if
    they're supposed to remain fixed.

    Thanks for your replies
    -CH-
     
    clh333, May 24, 2007
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  2. clh333

    Tegger Guest

    wrote in @o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:


    Start over. Do not drive the car this way; the drums will overheat and
    warp.

    Double and triple check how the shoes are seated, especially where they
    seat into the cylinders. It is easy to have the shoes sitting just bit
    wrongly.

    Generally, a good idea when doing drum brakes is to do one side at a time.
    That way you can refer to the untouched side when reassembling the one
    you're working one.

    It is also possible your <gag> aftermarket shoes are too thick and simply
    do not fit.




    The pins should easily push through their holes in the caliper. Try
    whacking them with a nylon mallet and see if they start moving. They should
    eventually free up to the point where you can push the pin back and forth
    in the caliper hole. If the pin refuses to move no matter what, then you
    need to pull everything apart and sand off all the rust.


    Then you're unsing the wrong kind of manual. It's a Haynes, right?
     
    Tegger, May 24, 2007
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  3. clh333

    jim beam Guest

    i think it's simpler than that - sounds like he's not screwed the
    self-adjuster mechanism back into position!
     
    jim beam, May 25, 2007
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  4. clh333

    jim beam Guest

    what's your mileage? civic rears rarely need replacing for wear before
    150k miles. more if you're a freeway driver. corrosion is another
    matter, but beware false claims of wear.
    what exactly does that mean? that you screwed them all the way back to
    /minimum/ like you should have done?
    something's wrong. suspect the adjusters.
    you're using honda parts, correct? after-market stuff doesn't always
    fit as well.
    with respect, if you're unclear on this, you need to get some training.
    or give it to someone that does to finish the job. sign up for a
    community college evening course in basic car maint. it'll save you
    thousands of dollars in the future and give you a lot more confidence
    when handling jobs like this - you can screw [and potentially make
    learning mistakes] with their gear all you want in a safe environment -
    it's a lot more expensive and potentially dangerous to learn the hard
    way on your own.
     
    jim beam, May 25, 2007
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  5. clh333

    Tegger Guest


    He has front discs and rear drums.

    He says he's got "the adjusters at minimum expansion".

    Where'd he go? No followup from him so far.
     
    Tegger, May 25, 2007
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