Broken Key

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Steve, Aug 9, 2006.

  1. Steve

    Steve Guest

    Hello, all,
    The plastic head of the key to my wife's 2004 Honda broke last night,
    with the key in the ignition. Fortunately, the top of the metal part of the
    key is large enough that I was able to turn it and remove it with the help
    of a needle-nosed pliers (I may not even have needed the needle-nosed but it
    made it simpler. Since the car has over 36,000 miles, the dealer's service
    manager denied responsibility. After my wife gave him some grief about how
    cheap the plastic head is, he agreed to provide a new key for his cost ($75)
    plus tax, which will be about $10 less than retail.
    For completeness sake, I'll add that the head is the type that has the
    remote controls on it (open door, lock door, open trunk, panic button).
    My question is, has anyone else had an experience with the key head
    breaking after only a short life? What did you do about it?
    Thanks!
    Steve
     
    Steve, Aug 9, 2006
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  2. How much over 36K miles is it?

    Do you have a relationship with this dealership?

    Sounds like you don't. sounds like this guy doesn't have a clue. go
    elsewhere.
     
    Elmo P. Shagnasty, Aug 9, 2006
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  3. Steve

    Spdloader Guest

    Just a question:

    Is the vehicle parked with the steering wheel turned sharply?

    If so, this can cause an extra effort to turn the key in the lock, enough to
    break the key off. Sometimes pressure on the wheel has to be relieved (by
    slightly turning it the other way) in order for the key to work easily. I've
    seen a lot of broken keys because folks didn't know this.

    Spdloader
     
    Spdloader, Aug 9, 2006
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  4. --------------------------

    I'm not sure why 'folks don't know this' when it's been printed in every
    Honda owner's manual since the dawn of modern transportation. They must
    think Honda made the keys bigger so _they_ could get more leverage on
    them. :-(

    'Curly'
     
    'Curly Q. Links', Aug 9, 2006
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  5. Steve

    notbob Guest

    Maybe Honda should wise up and make the key head smaller.

    nb
     
    notbob, Aug 9, 2006
    #5
  6. "notbob" wrote
    Maybe people shouldn't try to force the key out. Any time mine won't come
    out easily, I turn the wheel just a bit to relieve the aforementioned
    pressure. That should be way beyond second nature. Then again, I've been
    told there are no "shoulds" in life.
     
    Howard Lester, Aug 9, 2006
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  7. Steve

    AZ Nomad Guest

    Actually it's a safety feature. Why modify a design that has the added
    benefit of disabling a vehicle when the driver lacks the double digit IQ
    needed to operate an ignition key? If only such a disabled vehicle would
    lock the idiot driver inside and prevent the idiot from using another vehicle.
     
    AZ Nomad, Aug 9, 2006
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  8. Steve

    notbob Guest

    Howzabout "coulds"? I notice all keys, even house keys, have become
    just a tad thinner, these days. A few thousandths less per key times
    millions of keys adds up to increased profit margin. What care they
    you break your key? That's more money for them. It could actually be
    ....gasp!... intentional.

    nb
     
    notbob, Aug 9, 2006
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  9. Steve

    AZ Nomad Guest

    If a lock doesn't turn smoothly, spray some lubricant into it. This isn't
    rocket science.
     
    AZ Nomad, Aug 9, 2006
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  10. Steve

    TeGGeR® Guest


    You read my mind... :)
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 9, 2006
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  11. Steve

    Spdloader Guest



    ......just got my crystal ball back from the shop. Don't know how long it'll
    work this time.

    Spdloader
     
    Spdloader, Aug 9, 2006
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  12. Steve

    AZ Nomad Guest


    I swear people are getting dumber every passing year.
     
    AZ Nomad, Aug 9, 2006
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  13. "AZ Nomad" wrote
    You read my mind! ;-)
     
    Howard Lester, Aug 10, 2006
    #13
  14. Steve

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Did you use aftermarket parts?
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 10, 2006
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  15. This does bring up the subject of the incredible swelling Honda car
    key. I have commented to other Honda owners when I see the size of
    the newer ones. If you get a group of owners together you can rank
    their cars in age order based on the size of the key alone. Just
    yesterday I checked the key to an '06 Accord (with the built in
    buttons) and I couldn't believe the size of it. not only is the head
    large, but the blade looked about 25% longer than the one for my '94
    GS-R. Is this some kind of Freudian thing? What is wrong with making
    the remote a separate fob?
     
    Gordon McGrew, Aug 10, 2006
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  16. Steve

    Spdloader Guest

    Not this time. Last time I used the cheaper, Taiwanese crystal. Got cloudy
    in no time.

    Spdloader
     
    Spdloader, Aug 10, 2006
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  17. Steve

    TeGGeR® Guest



    Oh, good for you.



    Then you must have used the aftermarket Dilithium Orthobinary substrate.
    This will mess up your A/C system. Don't do it again.
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 10, 2006
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  18. Steve

    Spdloader Guest

    Yes, better clarity, better warranty, and doesn't give the "beer goggles"
    effect when looking at women at the bar.

    Spdloader
     
    Spdloader, Aug 10, 2006
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