Bypass solenoid valve

Discussion in 'General Motoring' started by Jess, Aug 8, 2006.

  1. Jess

    Jess Guest

    Hi,

    I just was told that my bypass solenoid valve was bad and needed to be
    replaced. First of all, what is it and what does it do? The
    mechanic's accent was so thick that I could barely understand what he
    was saying. I know it is part of the EVAP but I am not sure of its
    function.

    Please help!

    j.
     
    Jess, Aug 8, 2006
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  2. Jess

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Year? Make? Model?

    Is this a Honda?
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 8, 2006
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  3. Jess

    TeGGeR® Guest



    Don't wanna tell me what year and model? Oh well.

    The EVAP system regularly applies vacuum to the vapor purge tank to clean
    it out. This vacuum must not be allowed to pull new vapors from the gas
    tank during this operation, so there is a "vacuum cut solenoid valve" to
    block vacuum from reaching the gas tank.
    When the EVAP system does its "self test", it needs to be able to apply
    vacuum to the tank to check for leaks, so it has to override the "vacuum
    cut solenoid valve". The bypassing is done by the "bypass solenoid valve".

    If the bypass was bad, the ECM probably saw the wrong voltage values from
    other sensors in the system, and it then knew to turn on your Check Engine
    light with an error code.
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 9, 2006
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  4. Jess

    Jess Guest

    Greetings,

    Thank you for the thorough response. By the way, It's a '99 Accord
    Coupe, 4cyl. I didn't realize that this part would perform different
    functions in different cars, which is why I neglected to provide the
    model and year.

    How often does the EVAP system do a self test?

    When you say, "it needs to be able to apply vacuum to the tank..." Are
    you talking about the vapor purge tank or gas tank? I would assume the
    gas tank since it overrides the vacuum valve, which prevents access to
    it.

    Also...the vapor purge tank. How are there "extra" vapors where they
    need their own tank?

    Thanks again!

    Jessica
     
    Jess, Aug 9, 2006
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  5. Jess

    TeGGeR® Guest


    Performs the same function in all vehicles with that type of EVAP. But...

    It's *always* a good idea when posting questions to state year, model, trim
    level, transmission and presence or absence of A/C. Engine controls differ
    given the above. This way some of us can look to see if there are known
    problems, gotchas, or TSBs involving your ride.



    Don't know for sure, but I think it's at least once per trip.



    There aren't any "extra" vapors. All fuel tank vapors end up in the
    charcoal canister that is called the "purge tank". This is the entire
    purpose of the EVAP system.

    It's just that when the EVAP system attempts to drain the purge tank of its
    existing vapors, it makes no sense to allow new vapors into the purge tank
    at the same time. That would be a bit like pulling the plug on your
    bathroom sink while turning the tap on at the same time.
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 9, 2006
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  6. Jess

    Jess Guest

    Thank you so much for your help! I really appreciate it.

    I checked out your website and was fascinated with all the FAQs! I,
    too, have a buzz at certain RPMs (typically when I'm at a low speed in
    2nd or 3rd) in the rear of my car. I wonder if I have the Honda
    "A-pipe" rattle?

    My friend said something about Honda offering a "buzz" kit to fix the
    problem but I never looked into it because it didn't seem all that
    problematic.

    Thanks again!

    Jessica
     
    Jess, Aug 10, 2006
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  7. Jess

    Stephen H Guest

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    Don't know specifically, but most cars have restrictions on when the test is
    to be attempted. Quantity of fuel between X and X; Temperature between X and
    X and engine cold or the first start in the day. Often when dealing with the
    evap system you may have a driver that never meets the requirements so the
    test never gets performed.

    --
    Stephen W. Hansen
    ASE Certified Master Automobile Technician
    ASE Automobile Advanced Engine Performance
    ASE Undercar Specialist

    http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troubleshooting/l/bl_obd_main.htm
    http://www.troublecodes.net/technical/
    http://www.familycar.com/Alignment.htm
     
    Stephen H, Aug 12, 2006
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  8. Jess

    TeGGeR® Guest


    I was wondering about that. Obviously the test would have to be performed
    under certain conditions, and if those condtions were never met, the test
    would never be performed. I guess another example would be the cat
    efficiency test (P0420 error).
     
    TeGGeR®, Aug 13, 2006
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